Opinions on 7th gen Civic

[specialst]

Hi Everyone.
Im in the market to buy an EP/ES/EU Civic.
Id like to ask all the EP/ES/EU civic owners out there, opinions about the 7th gen civic.
Things such as:
- Pro's: What do u like?
- Con's: What dont you like?, What pisses u off? What is dumb about the car.
- Problems: u have encountered, common problems
- Aftermarket Support: what mods are out there?
- Comparison to the D16Y predecessor?

Much appreciated for your answers!
Cheers

[rk 86 wa]

i used to own a 7th gen,

to be honest i didnt like much about it.

cons:
- no power
- tiny tires
- bad handling
- in comparison to the d16 sohc vtec, the d17 soch non vtec found in gli was same or slower
- looks bland

buy the 8th gen, a much much better car

[denot]

cons:
- see rk_86_wa post above, plus:
- doesnt like the interior looks

pro:
- my first ever car, so it will always leave a good mark in my heart :p hohoho

[specialst]

ahh so 7th gen isnt anything special then..?
from what u guys say it:
- lacks guts
- very slow (slower then a d16y)
- bad handling

is there anything good about this car? lol

[denot]

to tell you the truth, I like the looks... before I saw an 8th gen :p

[bo279]

has turning circle like a truck

any of u guys tried installing a K&N panel filter on the d17? I got one and it doesn't fit properly

[simonnowis]

i had a 7th gen, civic ES before. They werent too bad, compared to the EK sedan it was better. If your planning on mods..dont! because i doubt you'll find much for the 7th gen, unless u order from overseas. overseas theres quite a number of k20 7th gen civics.

only thing that i didnt like about the ES was the uncomfortable seats, the EK seats are much more firm.

[Riced_Civic]

has turning circle like a truck

=

my turning circle isnt like a truck dunno whats wrong with yours.

then again ive modded mine with all sussy mods i could think of on a car.

power wise it is shitty, thus y im geting a turbo in feb.

interior is pretty bland thus i dressed it up to make it look better.

wheels r small 14' OEM thus i put bigger 1's on

exterior looked ok from OEM and there is no sporty version of this car so it will never look aggressive stock. this i added bit to make it look better.
the only sports version is the EP3 type r and is totally different from the GLi & Vi.

if u want a car with good km per tank then this is a good car, i can get ova 700km with it in 1 tank

[denot]

if u want a car with good km per tank then this is a good car, i can get ova 700km with it in 1 tank

oh forgot to mention that is another good thing about my GLi before... :p

[Rainman]

Other than what's been said above; the only other thing that's good is that it's a Honda!!!

It's a good family car though; not for modding.

[denot]

^^^ true! and its build a bit better than our 8th Gen... (less ratle, etc)

[simonnowis]

^^^ true! and its build a bit better than our 8th Gen... (less ratle, etc)

2nd that, thats something i noticed to, another pro is that its the last honda civic gen made in japan. not saying 8th gen have crappy build, but in terms of the 7th gen, didnt have any problems, where as with the 8th gen, had power window problem and some other costmestic issues.
nothing major, but still wasnt happy considering its a brand new car.

if the 7th gen coupe came out here in AU i would of def gone for that.

[specialst]

awsome feed back guys!
im having second thoughts about buying an ES.
simply because id like a car with some degree of punch in the engine.
i used to own an EK1 and was NOT happy with that. so i dont think it will be any different with this 7th gen.

yes, i have heard the car is smooth and the aircon is awsome =D lol

thanks guys.

feel free to add more of the,
- Pro's: What do u like? Whats good about the car?
- Con's: What dont you like?, What pisses u off? What is dumb about the car.
- Problems: u have encountered, common problems
- Aftermarket Support: what mods are out there?
- Comparison to the D16Y predecessor?

makes a nice place where ppl can state the little things that tickle their fancies. lol

[simonnowis]

Pro:cheap for a relatively new car, especially a honda.

Con: the resale value sucks, compared to older civics.

[7th Gen]

if u want a car with good km per tank then this is a good car, i can get ova 700km with it in 1 tank

how do you get 700km out of one tank? amazing...........

pros:
- quite bland, but a good thing if you don't want to attract unwanted attention
- good to carry passengers around in
- as mentioned b4, the earlier ones were 'Made in Japan' Civic
- reasonably good on petrol and reliable (except for gearbox - see cons below)

cons:
- no power!
- not a lot of mods out there
- my auto gearbox died at 140K, apparently this is a design/reliability issue (?)

i agree with Riced Civic, you can make it look much better than bog stock with some nice simple mods
mine is lowered on 17s, has an RS grille, exhaust finisher, the side steps and i changed the head unit, that's it

[Riced_Civic]

how do you get 700km out of one tank? amazing...........

pros:
- quite bland, but a good thing if you don't want to attract unwanted attention
- good to carry passengers around in
- as mentioned b4, the earlier ones were 'Made in Japan' Civic
- reasonably good on petrol and reliable (except for gearbox - see cons below)

cons:
- no power!
- not a lot of mods out there
- my auto gearbox died at 140K, apparently this is a design/reliability issue (?)

i agree with Riced Civic, you can make it look much better than bog stock with some nice simple mods
mine is lowered on 17s, has an RS grille, exhaust finisher, the side steps and i changed the head unit, that's it

ive actually checked once when i 1st got the car and i was bloody amazed with it. i change gears under 2500 rpm all the time. and most of the time its all cruzin. but when i get the turbo it'll prob drop to like 400 cos ill be obsessed with boost. lol

[bo279]

wow...700...
i managed to get around 480...

dunno...my turning circles' pretty big...not like an eg..more like a 4wd..

7th Gen: can you post a pic of yours...i've been contemplating getting the factory kit from Honda

[clayton4115]

i have a 7th gen, great little car! couldnt be happier, but i am not an enthusiast like most of you, would agree that it does lack a little power, but very smooth, a little noisy though, but overall i love the car, great fuel economy as well, can get up to 600 kms on the 40L tank, i would rate it 8/10. Great car.

[RedEu]

are you thinking of modifying it?
I had a EU3 for 4 years before i sold it a couple of years back. Did some mods on it, I was purely into the handling side of things, so engine was left untouched, it was a VTi, which was a limited edition that came with the climate control (same dash found in EP3). I've spent a lot of time on researching where to get the parts & whether parts from the ES or the EP fits etc as the car is just rare, i have to say after mods, it attracted a lot of attention & thumbs up everywhere i go, i presume its because its so rare & people have no idea what car it is.

Pros:
-Rare
-Very Spacious;
-Storage Space;
-Car body was pretty stiff, no rattles even after stiffer suspensions were installed.

Cons:
-Steering wheel too light.
-More Power would be nice.

I've attached 2 pics.. :-)
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/6862/p1020494hx7.jpg (http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1020494hx7.jpg)

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/8619/p1020495nb8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

(http://g.imageshack.us/img367/p1020495nb8.jpg/1/)

[Seren1ty]

thats a very tidy civic mate, nice work! Subtle but with a definite road presence.

[denot]

the Vi with K20A would be good... 4 doors EP3R :p

[NZFD2]

I had a VI EU before for a few years..

pro:
- spacious: plenty of leg room in front, back and boot space was good
- good economy

cons:
- i found the suspension quite hard
- huge turning circle

[bo279]

RedEu: how much the kit set u back?

[specialst]

nah no modifying...
i turned down a mint ES yesterday :( :( negotiated it to a good price as well:
- 01 ES civic
- full honda history in log book
- silver
- manual

been persuaded to find another sports car.
know anyone selling a genuine car in adelaide which isnt overpriced?.. PM me.. lols

i do admit i liked the ES ALOT but... still young and single to be settling down -_-"

[denot]

so thread closed?

[specialst]

i dont see why...
ppl can keep posting up things they like dislike about the 7th gen...
from my searching theres not alot of info about them anywhere

[SHU-ES1]

i wish we had 7th generation coupes in aus :(

and riced_civic, where did you get the RS grille from? ta.

[Riced_Civic]

^^^ got it from ebay really cheap, but since the $ is shit not im not to sure now, i only got it for $90aus.

i dont know y people say the turning circle if big i find it quite small for a 4door sedan ive driven my friends ED and its about the same distance

[bo279]

I've got an EU Vti...don't know if there's any difference in turning circle.

[ShAwNeX]

Do not buy 7th gen civic!!!!!

(from experience)

[Riced_Civic]

Do not buy 7th gen civic!!!!!

(from experience)

care to say Y

[wokstar88]

I have a '02 Civic Vi (D17A2) XD

Pros:
- Lotsa space to put ur junk in
- A pretty normal car, won't attract attention
- Good build quality (well my rear right window rattles when volume is up)
- Pretty good fuel economy, avg 500km for me.
- 4 disc brakes =)

Cons:
- Gearbox (4 Speed auto = wtfbbq!?!?, get the manual one )
- Engine (only fun up to 60kph and then its boring, don't count on going faster than 175kph)
- Handling, doesn't go around corners when u push it hard.

Otherwise if you're just looking for an everyday driver which my little 5 door hatch does for me with the odd thrashing once every blue moon its a good little car that will serve you very well. But if u count on going fast and racing this car is a no go, look for an EP3 if u wanna go fast.

[7th Gen]

7th Gen: can you post a pic of yours...i've been contemplating getting the factory kit from Honda

how do i post a pic?
and no, i don't have the factory kit

[RedEu]

RedEu: how much the kit set u back?


actually the kit was full honda item, i bought it with the front lip, side, rear lip, spoiler & fog lights installed on the car. I got the wheels from sydney, they are 5 Zigen's, and Tein Springs + Koni Sports Adjustable Shocks, also changed the rear sway bar from DC5 Integra... :-)

[wokstar88]

Anything genuine Honda will set u back heaps =/
I dun really c the point of doing up the little hatch. Wheels and springs are cool, buh yeah its just a good run around.
How did u get the rear sways from a DC5 to fit in the EU?

[Alpine]

Come on, the 7th gen Civic isn't that bad. It has potential. You can always do THIS!

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/3011/img312rockyoucomimagehocy4.jpg

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/9453/img356rockyoucomimagehocl1.jpg

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/4924/img362rockyoucomimagehoum2.jpg

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/1865/img367rockyoucomimagehopc9.jpg

[bo279]

^^^ it's a bit embarrassing doing that at the shops when getting some milk =D

[SHU-ES1]

that thing looks like it'll fly!
are you from thailand by any chance?
how close can you park next to someone before your rear doors bash the car next to it?

[wokstar88]

Civic Vi ftw - cos it has vtec!!! =D
and that was the only reason i got the Vi over the GLi

[bo279]

i think the gli sedan got the same engine.

[Riced_Civic]

only difference it has Shit Vtec in the Vi and none in the GLi

[Alpine]

No, I am not from Thailand. My boss is a Thai woman though, and she's a bitch.

[RedEu]

Anything genuine Honda will set u back heaps =/
I dun really c the point of doing up the little hatch. Wheels and springs are cool, buh yeah its just a good run around.
How did u get the rear sways from a DC5 to fit in the EU?


apparently the DC5 & EU shares the same platform & the same rear suspension, so fitting is purely remove & install, oh except of cos only needed to buy new bushes & brackets as the swaybar is larger in diameter, (i'm a cheapskate, i didnt want to spend $600+ for a swaybar from whiteline :p & they didnt have one for EU at the time, so i would be the 1st for them to model it up, thats why the price they quoted me was so high.)

[7th Gen]

Come on, the 7th gen Civic isn't that bad. It has potential. You can always do THIS!

Autobots, transform and roll out!!!! :D

[wokstar88]

only difference it has Shit Vtec in the Vi and none in the GLi

Bo279, Lawyered. Besides, having vtec is better than not having it XD

Even the brochure proves it: http://www.honda.com.au/wps/wcm/connect/63648b004631edfbb6c3fec677bb9647/Civic_Brochure_Feb05.pdf?MOD=AJPERES

[Riced_Civic]

tru, but its only 7kw as it says in the brochure. but i find it better to run without it for my turbo application

[bo279]

wokstar88: wow...does that mean my VTi kicks your Vi's a$$..vtec, abs, center arm rest, smaller/better antenna and a ep3 center console.

[wokstar88]

wokstar88: Wow...does that mean my vti kicks your vi's a$$..vtec, abs, center arm rest, smaller/better antenna and a ep3 center console.

lolwut?

[dawack1]

Damnnn everyone seems to get great fuel economy with their Gen 7 Civics!

I've got an 03 Gli and the best I've ever got is around 450 from a tank. Most of the time its 400km or less...mmm maybe I need to change my driving habits? Please give me some advice about improving my fuel economy!

Con:
88kW Power
Stiff steering (maybe that's just mine)
Pro:
A very practical car, gets you from A to B pretty well

Only problem I've had was a blocked air filter which was picked up during it's 40kms service.

[SHU-ES1]

I got an 03 GLi as well, and I get as least 450km on a full tank (~40L) - even with the more than occassional thrashing. The only thing I've done to it is put a SRI in, and I don't think that would make a significant increase in petrol consumption. I usually fill up with BP Ultimate or Shell Optimax? (forget the name). Is your car an auto? Mine is, and I think if they were manual we would be able to get 500+ like the other manual drivers with our model. So yours is pretty much standard. I thought I was the only one getting crappy fuel economy.

[dawack1]

I got an 03 GLi as well, and I get as least 450km on a full tank (~40L) - even with the more than occassional thrashing.

Yeah, I've got an auto and am in the same positon as you - "occassional thrashing" and that's just you know revving to 4500-5500rpm (if that even counts). I use standard petrol and the only times I ever get close to 450km is if I've gone on long drives and also have driven quite conservatively :S.

Oh well, kinda relieved it's not just mine. Btw excuse the ignorance, SRI = something something intake?

oh and another Con for the 7th gen, excluding the reserve, you' effectively only have a tank of about 38-39litres (correct me if I'm wrong), which could get annoying i.e. frequent pumping of petrol.

[SHU-ES1]

Yeh, true that. I fill up pretty much once a week because of the smaller tank. SRI is just short ram intake air filter thingy - i got it off ebay! :) Try filling up with the more expensive fuel and see if it makes a difference to your mileage.

[bo279]

maybe u guys do more city driving than the others. i've noticed if i do more freeway/motorway driving, the fuel consumption is better. but if im in traffic alot, the consumption is higher.

[wokstar88]

Strangely i use the standard stuff at the pump (91) and still get 450km+
Currently got BP Ultimate in the tank cos i didn't pay for it XD, the only differences i find are that vtec delivery and idling is a lot smoother with any 95 or 98, haven't really tested mileage but will let you know by the end of the week.
Then again i have an auto too and yeah, manual should always yield better mileage

Any 7th gen manual owners out there willing to enlighten us auto owners on the range you guys are getting?

[Riced_Civic]

i got a manual and i was getting around the 600 mark. nearly all of my driving is constant., and i usually shift at 2k.

[7th Gen]

maybe u guys do more city driving than the others. i've noticed if i do more freeway/motorway driving, the fuel consumption is better. but if im in traffic alot, the consumption is higher.

you're right bo279
i give my 7th gen a caning on the freeways and stuff and usually get 450+ km per tank, high 400s, sometimes very close to 500km

i think as it gets older there is less friction on the engine internals and so it 'moves better' (you know what i mean) and doesn't consume as much oil/petrol. all of course assuming you service it regularly

i don't think it's fair to compare manual and auto 7th gens cause you are always going to get better mileage from the manual. it's like what one guy said a few pages back - just shift around 2000rpm and you will get 600km :D (see above post!)

[StealthR]

You guys aren't alone. Mine is also auto and only manage to achieve 430-450km per tank and that is changing gears at 3000 rpm.

It's a shame however there is not after market parts for the ES1.

[7th Gen]

well, maybe its not meant to be modded :P

i know in Malaysia from the Temple of VTEC site for the ES model they bought out an RS or RX model, limited edition
http://asia.vtec.net/article/CivicRX/
http://asia.vtec.net/Reviews/20CivicRev/
http://asia.vtec.net/beystock/Civic/art11/index.html

OEM installation of K20A/5 spd auto into ES shape looks pretty good huh? :D

[Riced_Civic]

i wish they had that here

[cc1206]

i get roughly 450km for about 38L of fuel. I usually pump unleaded and once a month pump V power or BP ultimate.

Btw, Riced_Civic, where did you get your front grill for your es civic? i'm looking for one

[SHU-ES1]

he got it off ebay! hehe. i asked him the same question :)

[Riced_Civic]

Grill is off ebay
theres a couple from the states but i dunno if u want to get it from there cos of the $$

[bo279]

ive noticed the car not idling as smooth lately...
u think its the petrol i use? i only use the regular stuff....
also...u guys think its cos i got the air con on as well?
its due for the 100 000km service soon....about 1000km away

[HWIROL]

has turning circle like a truck

any of u guys tried installing a K&N panel filter on the d17? I got one and it doesn't fit properly

i fitted a K&N typhoon series cai on my civic vi & fit perfectly, not to mention a bit more power...

i quite like this model civic...arent too many of them around, they look good, drive well, i havent had any drama's with mine except for finding aftermarket products to suit this model civic...but overall its a great car...

[bo279]

isn't the typhoon, the one with the piping?
i got the panel filter. the shapes the same except there's extra bits that require a bit of surgery.

[SHU-ES1]

much diff being cai and short ram intake hwirol? i know your car has vtec, my car doesn't, but is there a noticeable difference when you hammer the car?

[cc1206]

^ I drove my mates EU (is EU the one that looks like the EP3?) and it felt faster but not much different? I think it just feels faster cause he had an exhaust lol

[FitRS]

Autobots, transform and roll out!!!! :D

haha :cool:

[7th Gen]

a few updates:

- replaced my front rotors with slotted RDA ones on the weekend, still running them in, looks very cool though :D
- removed my front and rear mudflaps for a cleaner look so if anyone wants them for an ES sedan then pls PM me
- trying to see if i can i get the 600+ mileage from an auto so been driving like Miss Daisy, will let you know how i go

reckon we could organise a 7th gen meet, there seems to be so many of us coming out of the woodwork :D

[Riced_Civic]

i wish but in im melb

[SHU-ES1]

same, i'm in SE melb! been on the lookout for your baby riced coz i'm in donny a fair bit :) haven't had any luck yet! hehe. you can find a few aftermarket bits and pieces on ebay if you've got a credit card. other than that, most of the auto stores around don't have much for our model. anyone ever seen our model civic with a car bra? sick of the chips on my bumper and bonnet. can't find it on ebay, or in the major auto stores. some help in locating somebody who makes them, or can supply them would be very much appreciated!

[Riced_Civic]

i think autobarn has it, i saw it on 1 in their sale

[SHU-ES1]

the one on the corner of doncaster road, and manningham road?

[Riced_Civic]

donny road

gonna start a 7th gen thread in the gallery so we show what the cars look like.

[dawack1]

hey riced can u link us to the gallery? i dont know my way around here that well.

also, how much would it cost to get fog lights fitted into my 7th gen? i'd have to go to a honda dealer specifically yeah. mmm HIDs would be nice as well. (my car is completely stock at the moment but i'm gaining some inspiration from all the 7th gens in the gallery :) )

[SHU-ES1]

do you have the facelift model 7th gen? i've got the one without it, and picked up a set of foglights off ebay for $160AUD include postage and handling. i can link you to the specific seller if you wish. I think HIDs that fit for our cars are H4's. I've got two sets for both my normal headlights 10000k brilliant blue, as well as for my foglights 6000k super white for the extra vision at night coz the blue HIDs are really crap for visibility at night/rainy days. i think you will also need the hi/lo type of HIDs for your normal headlights because i got the wrong pair and now i'm stuck with no high beams, so they flash on and off when i try to engage high beams. if you're interested in a pair, i've got this guy in melbourne that can hook you up with some for a reasonable price! any pics of your 7th gen? good luck making it look sexy! :)

[dawack1]

thanks for the info man.
mmm i've got the pre-facelift. it's 03 model and if i remember correctly 04 is when the facelift happened?
anyways the prices of the fog lights and HIDs seem pretty reasonable. so ebay is generally safe for buying car parts huh? if getting HIDs, would it look bad if i had HIDs for the headlights but not for the fogs?
hows installation for all this stuff? i know for a fact that i wouldn't be able to install this stuff myself :P don't really want to take the risk either haha.

anyways if you're wondering what my car looks like at the moment, its dark blue (midnight blue?) and has a rear spoiler :P. all stock. i'm going to get it tinted sometime this week. i need to earn some money these holidays so i'll check back with you in a few months i hope, when i'm ready to spend on fogs + HIDs :D. thanks

i might've seen your car around SHU-ES1, especially if you go to monash. theres a car at monash, black ES1, dark tint and replaced exhaust with massive tip. sounds nuts, it's not your one is it haha?

[SHU-ES1]

ah, you got the same model as me! here is a link for the foglights if ever you want to buy them.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Honda-Civic-02-03-Fog-Lights-Fog-lamps-Complete-Set-NEW_W0QQitemZ350096814290QQcmdZViewItem

i pretty much installed my own. it's quite easy, just take out the plastic covers in the bumper and then screw on the foglights - bumper needs to be removed for this. the switch is easy, goes where the side mirror controls are - the compartment comes out very easily. the tricky bit is getting the wire harness in and connected which is where i paid to get that done. i have a DIY forum that i can link to you if you do ever want to DIY. i think if you are going to get the HIDs, you might as well get two sets for both headlights and foggies - it looks much cooler! :)

riced, let us know when you open up the thread to post up the 7th gens in, since i haven't seen many pics in the gallery and would like to get some ideas on how to hot it up!

dawack1, i use to go to monash clayton back in the early 2000's but i've graduated now. i haven't got an exhaust for my car - will be coming at xmas as a present! eeeeeee! my car has a different black to the standard nighthawk black, i've had a full respray with extra blue pearl in it so it looks pretty - more bluish - during the day :) my baby is sitting on 18's too!

i'd like to see some pics of everybody's 7th gens! and maybe we should organise a melb meet, even if its only a few of us, would be cool! :)

[dawack1]

thanks for the link SHU-ES1. So theres my goal for the next few months, save up enough for fog lights + HIDs + installation (too scared to do it on my own haha).

i'm thinking about taking my car into tint-a-car to get it tinted, they said it "starts from as little as $200" and price will depend on what i choose. everyones had good experiences with tint-a-car i hope? any recommendations for other places in melbourne?
i'll have to choose the colour of the tint, it's going to be hard to decide...dark on a dark blue car, or blue on a dark blue car? mmm feels like i'm playing need for speed underground haha.

[SHU-ES1]

haha. i got my tinting done at premier tint in keysborough for ~$250 about 4 years ago, 2nd darkest tint.. thinking about it now, i should've gone the darkest - almost pitch black. looks awesome! i just thought about the trouble parking, and vision at night if i went for the deepest colour. if you go for the darkest "legal" tint, its a greenish tinge which imo looks yuck!

[Riced_Civic]

dawack1 heres the link

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=101941

[HazHonda]

hey guys,
some nice looking sedans. there aren't any hatchbacks represented yet but...
planning to mod mine once my exams finish (and i get some money) so keen to get some ideas.
what i have planned so far in chronological order: 18" black rims chrome lip, low suspension set up (coilovers if my christmas bonus is good enough haha), catback exhaust, SRI and post facelift projector headlights (my HIDS are currently blinding everyone with my reflectors =[ )
ill definitely post some pics once its worthy enough... but still a long way to go haha

[SHU-ES1]

you should be able to turn your headlights down to aim them closer to the ground.. i think there's a little screw that will fit a phillps-head, face it towards a wall about 7-10m away and you can tune it from there.. i had the same problem for almost 3 years until i figured it out. hope it helps!

[HazHonda]

haha yeah i did that but theyre still a little glaring, but yeah it definitely helped, much less people highbeaming me now as compared to before haha

[DC5.Raven]

Hey guys, used to own an ES sedan but sold it at the end of last year. I know aftermarket parts are hard to come by, but I've still got a full stainless steel cat-back exhaust lying around at home. I bought it in america, its a 'Megan Racing' exhaust, madrel-bent and had a nice deep tone to it. Still got some vids and pics of it on my car. So if anyone was looking for one, Im located in sydney and pm me. Btw parts are easy to get from america (i had an hks hipower before, an rs grille, and k & n filter that i bought in america, but have already sold). Thanks.

[SHU-ES1]

hey dc5! any luck with the courier service to melbourne? i don't know where to start looking!

[DC5.Raven]

sorry Shu, havnt had the chance to look it up. been on holidays since last friday. just out of curiousity, what other parts u looking to put on ur car?

[Riced_Civic]

reckon we should have a 7th gen meet that would be nice

[SHU-ES1]

well, not too much really. im still tossing up between the catback exhaust, or just a muffler. honestly, i just want it to sound nice because i know unless i boost it, its not going to be very fast. haha.. any suggestions?

[Riced_Civic]

just get the axle back, doin up this car is very hard unless boosted for swapped. even a full NA build will only net u like 120kw atw for $15k where as if u go turbo u can get 140kw for $8k.

my turbo build is gonna cost me around $10K cos im aiming for 160kw

[SHU-ES1]

my motoware mate said the same thing.. the whole catback exhaust thing won't really make a diff. would it?

[Riced_Civic]

nope none

[SHU-ES1]

who's doing the boost kit for you, and how much you pick it up for? gotta get a vid happening once its done! and btw, roughly how much does it cost to change this car's auto to a manual transmission?

[Riced_Civic]

AKmotorworks in ringwood is doing my custom kit for 10k with the extras i want to add, Andy is the best i reckon. his stage 2 boost kit is around 7k which would suit best for this car.

Auto to Manual not 2 sure im guessing from around 1.5k to 2k maybe cheaper not sure mate. give Andy a call his a trader on the forums.

[DC5.Raven]

I personally dont think changing auto to manual is worth it tho man. Ur better off just trading in for manual version of ur car or just getting a different manual car. The reason I did cat-back & intake was purely for the sound it would make.

[SHU-ES1]

i like the deep purring noise a wrx makes, any suggestions? i've had a look at youtube and some of those civics are really beasty, and some sound like weed wackers.. can you post the vid you had of your old es1 raven?

[DC5.Raven]

if u wanted the deep note a wrx makes then u'll have to go with a cat-back. axlebacks wont make much difference in sound. but just to let u know, u'll never get the same exact sound. diff engine, turbo etc etc. heres the megan racing cat-back that was on my car:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YdKS74k_Y4

its really dark and bad vid quality. but thats pretty much how it sounded. its the exhaust i still have lying around.

[SHU-ES1]

sounds nice man! i saw the pics of your old car, the exhaust hangs quite low doesn't it? is that how you told the guy to install it? you couldn't tuck it under the bumper?

[DC5.Raven]

nah thats how it came when i got it. didnt really wanna change it up. actually me and a mate installed it. used a couple of jacks and got under the car. pretty easy. and cause the car was not lowered, didnt really scrape.

you still wants it?

[DC5.Raven]

oh and u dont want it too close to bumper. it might melt it.

[Riced_Civic]

ill try and get a vid up next week of mine, i got a custom cat-back.

[SHU-ES1]

nice! i just bought a can the other day.. hope it sounds alright, since performance was never my real issue.. any suggestions as to where is a good place to take it to get it welded on, and how it should be done? location, southeast melbourne.

[Riced_Civic]

Performance Exhaust Ringwood

[clem]

To the Civic Vi (EU) owners,

Does anyone else find the lack of center console the biggest pain in the ass ?
Pisses me off so much i just got junk rolling around everywhere (so dangerous)

Designers of this car should be shot just for that reason!

[SHU-ES1]

hey guys,

just wanted to know if any of you who has the es1 sedan and have a short ram intake, whether anyone has put in a front strut bar? it seems the intake pipe sits quite high - probably almost touching the bonnet - and is there any problem with fitting one in? or its not possible? i was thinking of getting one, but looking in my engine bay the other day, i don't think it will fit because of the intake. thanks!

[dawack1]

I just pumped my car with premium unleaded, hoping for some sort of difference..i got 405km from 35.01L from my previous tank, hopefully premium will make a difference. Do any of you guys pump premium? I'm doing it just out of curiosity, my car doesn't really deserve premium hehe.

[SHU-ES1]

yeh, i do v-power and ultimate all the time.. i know my car is no performance vehicle, but i find that it does run better and a little extra mileage with it.. let us know how you go!

[bo279]

To the Civic Vi (EU) owners,

Does anyone else find the lack of center console the biggest pain in the ass ?
Pisses me off so much i just got junk rolling around everywhere (so dangerous)

Designers of this car should be shot just for that reason!

i like having the extra room. Maybe u should clear the junk in your car so that it's not "dangerous"

[Riced_Civic]

hey guys,

just wanted to know if any of you who has the es1 sedan and have a short ram intake, whether anyone has put in a front strut bar? it seems the intake pipe sits quite high - probably almost touching the bonnet - and is there any problem with fitting one in? or its not possible? i was thinking of getting one, but looking in my engine bay the other day, i don't think it will fit because of the intake. thanks!

only 1 i can think of if a DC sports Strut bar from the US

[fagay]

I have a 05 civic vi

Pros:
- interior space. a good family car.
- good fuel economy, average 500km on 40L. apparently vi has better fuel economy than auto gli...(pls correct me if wrong.. =D)

Cons:
- not powerful, not fast
- bad handling...:(

[EJ25SOHC]

hey guy,i m a owner of 01 EU,nice to meet you guys
EU parts is really hard to find,just like the bodykit,i've been looking for more than 1 year and i only got the front lips,can't find the others

[SHU-ES1]

auto fuel economy sucks, handling sucks, and no power :) bump for more pics!

[dawack1]

Hey guys, haven't been on here in a while, how are your cars?
Today we got my Civic serviced, it was a Harrier service for 45k and they said something about not being able to replace the power steering fluid because its a special Honda type that my non-Honda dealer has no access to. I need to do a wheel alignment some other time, it hangs to the left too much.

Anyways my dad and I were talking about how mediocre this car is, I'm sorta over it. I guess I've just got over it (its stock) although I've only had it for a year. I'm curious to see how much I can sell the car for, it seems to vary a lot on Carsales.
Its a Honda Civic GLi MY03 sedan, 45k on the clock, serviced regularly, no serious issues with it at all. What would you price it at?

[bo279]

just got the car serviced for 100k....replaced timing belt and seals...

also chucked in a k&n panel filter....the difference the filter makes is amazing, car is alot more responsive and smoother through the gears...

[SHU-ES1]

did you get it done at honda? if so, how much did that set you back?

[wokstar88]

To the Civic Vi (EU) owners,

Does anyone else find the lack of center console the biggest pain in the ass ?
Pisses me off so much i just got junk rolling around everywhere (so dangerous)

Designers of this car should be shot just for that reason!

Let me start off by saying, yes everyone i have to say but it is a CHICK CAR. Plenty of friends have noticed that space in the center, many of them have claimed its handbag space >_<

But I personally dont have any problems with it, just shove ur take away or a box of tissues nxt to the handbrake like i do. I found it pretty handy yesterday getting out of the car after parking my Vi near the corner of a busy intersection, i just crawled over to the passenger side and got out without risking my drivers door getting swiped by some idiot. imo i think the lack of console is a plus.

[bo279]

did you get it done at honda? if so, how much did that set you back?

nah, got my mechanic to do it, with all honda parts. you guys should give the k@n a go. cheap mod....also my car is stock as and it made gains :D

[7th Gen]

guys, have an RS grille and also mudflaps for GLi sedan for sale

PM me if you are interested

[SHU-ES1]

hey guys,

i'm picking a pair or recaro tomcats i think they are called, some nice seats with like green and black checkers on it. i was wondering where i can pick up some rails for them? and how much it would cost me to get them installed? hope they look good! :D

[Riced_Civic]

ey tony u get my msg,

just get a set of universal rails and then get the brackets made. thats how i did it for my seats.

[SHU-ES1]

i have dc2/eg rails, where can i get them made from? my bro reckons all i need to do is change where the bolts go with a few new welds to fit my car?

[Riced_Civic]

u can get the brackets made pretty much anywhere that does welding, just ask them if they can make u some new brackets that match the car and weld them on to the rails.

[SHU-ES1]

awesome.. any suggestions as to where i should go that would charge me a reasonable price? i'd like to get it done asap.

[Riced_Civic]

i went and got mine dont at my old mechanics but they were a bit pricey. usually exhaust shops can do it just give them a call as ask if they can weld what ur asking for.

[DoAvl]

I used to have an '01 VI. white, with white 17" rims (no idea what), spoon muffler, SRI (k&n pod filter), coilovers, shithouse chinabrand tyres and TypeR stickers (stickers made the car 120&#37; faster). gave it to my lil bro after procuring a DC5R.

pro's:
- lotsa space, especially at the back.
- good mileage (avg 500k)
- cheap & easy to maintain

cons:
- SLOW as a push bike.
- hard to find 3rd party parts.
- handles like a donkey.

[Jokkahk]

my parents bought me this car, so i cant complain :D

yeah its slow but im not to fussy about it.

[SHU-ES1]

yo danny n chan and all other 7th gen owners.. another meet in williamstown on sat.

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=106609

[Jokkahk]

i prob wont be able to make it, but are you going?

[SHU-ES1]

yeh, its just around the corner for me. i live in williamstown now! :D

i think my bro is gonna come down as well. damn, both of you can't make it this time round :(

edit again: just wanted to know, i heard something about dc5 suspension being able to fit in our cars? am i wrong here? im thinking of getting coilovers but not sure where to go get them, whether i should buy off ebay or go to pedders? any suggestions?

[Riced_Civic]

if u use the DC5 or EP3 COilover i think u need to change the forks, but dont quote me on that.

i know there are a few coilovers going around for out car, i know On the Run Motorsports in Clayton supply them for our cars, thats where i got mine from.

[SHU-ES1]

how much did you pick them up and installed for dandan? i was thinking of getting a set for my car.

[Riced_Civic]

i picked by coils up for $1800

[dawack1]

Ok so I've decided to keep this car, at least for the moment. Now, I want to make it faster and handle better :P.

I know, I know it's noob of me but I want this car to be more exciting haha

[SHU-ES1]

k20 it! :P

[Riced_Civic]

get coils and rear sway bar makes the handling like 10 times better. i wouldnt bother with power upgrades cos itll be worthless, trust me ive done it all. if u want power either Turbo like me or like Tony says K20 it.

when u guys get some mods done you should come for a track day

[Jokkahk]

where can i pick up the rear sway bars from and how much? :D

[Riced_Civic]

ill let u have mime when i swap out for a DC5 1 if u want it cheap 80 whiteline rear

[Jokkahk]

ill let u have mime when i swap out for a DC5 1 if u want it cheap 80 whiteline rear

awsome! leave it for me :D

[SHU-ES1]

no! leave it for me!! haha.. when you getting the dc5? if you're going to do that, don't bother turboin' the es. there's a k20 engine going on firesport for 7k if anyone is interested? haha. ill probably get my coils done, i dont think ill track it. no point, car will be slow as.. :(

[dawack1]

lol u guys are going to have to translate for me :P. i'm on my Ps so i don't think i can get turbos etc.

visually, what i want to do is:
- fog lights (with HIDs hopefully)
- get rid of my rear spoiler (somewhat undecided still)
- muffler tip, don't wanna spend too much on a whole exhaust system
- rims (eventually)
- lower (eventually, a bit worried about the speed bumps in my area haha)

performance-wise, needless to say i want to improve the handling whilst increasing acceleration, at no cost to fuel consumption :P

i just did a google search on the term "k20" - so that's like a whole new motor!? i'm just a student so obviously cash is going to be an issue, i can't have it all haha

thanks guys

EDIT: I also hear a lot about these "K&N Air filters", are they expensive? My understanding of air filters is that if they get dirty, your fuel economy decreases - this was happening to my car before its 35k service.

[Jokkahk]

get some noice 16s and lower it and your done!

:wave:

[Riced_Civic]

no! leave it for me!! haha.. when you getting the dc5? if you're going to do that, don't bother turboin' the es. there's a k20 engine going on firesport for 7k if anyone is interested? haha. ill probably get my coils done, i dont think ill track it. no point, car will be slow as.. :(


i didnt mean swapping cars, im swapping my whiteline sway for a DC5R sway.

u may think that cars slow on the track but its pretty decent when u see the times it gets.

[Riced_Civic]

dawack1

visually, what i want to do is:
- fog lights (with HIDs hopefully) - good choice
- get rid of my rear spoiler (somewhat undecided still) - never had 1 looks good with and with out its ur choice. if its the boot lip spoiler sell it 2 me :P
- muffler tip, don't wanna spend too much on a whole exhaust system - just get a muffler, ur not gonna gain much from these cars with a full cat-back
- rims (eventually) - 16"min in my book, either go 16" to 17" JDM or the VIP 18" to 20" look for best styles.
- lower (eventually, a bit worried about the speed bumps in my area haha) - i would go coils for just height adjustable which can easily be done at home.

this is what i would do, i dunno what the other guys would say its just 1 persons opinion

BTW pics

[dawack1]

thanks for the replies guys

i had a look on the net and it looks like because im on green p's (post july 07, pre july 08) i can't put in any of those engine modifications because they add to the power of the car. however, what are the chances of a civic getting pulled over and inspected by the police? (famous last words?)

riced, about my rear spoiler it's just the standard ones that come with 03 gli's. by "boot lipped" do you mean the ones on like the civic hybrid, coz thats not what i have. my issue with getting rid of the rear spoiler is the fact that theres just going to be tape over the holes.

in regards to rims, i think with my car 16s or 17s max would be the go, but i'm going to leave rims til ive saved up a bit more. stock rims arent so bad as long as you keep em clean hehe.

replacing the coils naturally lowers the car right, but how does that effect the comfort of the ride? also, my car is quite loud for something with so little grunt, i realise its because of the high revs required but i've seen somewhere on this forum that you can get like engine insulation or something?

thanks for the tips guys. i really wish i could do some of the engine modifications, legally - a better air filter would be good i reckon! btw, how do you guys fund your car modifcations!? it's so hard to raise the money and then be prepared to part with it, especially when working just part time.

[Riced_Civic]

my coilovers feel like stock when set on the softest setting but i usually set them up in the mid 12 to 14 range as i like the stiffer ride, i have a 32 click setting point on my coilovers.

if its the case with the modding laws just go with the lowering and rims its makes for a good looking car to drive around, with the air filter i would just get a replacement 1 theres no need for a pod filter.

[Jokkahk]

ive got some cheapo airfilter pod in my car, doesnt really do much to power just makes a deeper sound when you rev it lol sounds good tho :thumbsup:

oh and changing to aftermarking springs will make your car lower and the ride will be stiffer.

[DC5.Raven]

just outta curiosity, how much power is ur ES making riced_civic?
and what do u have on it?

the mods on my ES did absolutely nothing (catback and panel filter) so i ditched it about a year and a half ago and got a faster car.

[Riced_Civic]

do u mean now or when i get my turbo??

Now i think i have 70-80 kw, lol it sounds so low :P

turbo im planing on making about 130-140,

then with a full build ill try for 280 or so.

[SHU-ES1]

i think you're probably going about it in the right way, to get power from our cars would require a bit of an investment into them. i believe turboing is the more economical option in comparison to an engine swap. but there's probably more you could do with a turbo'd engine if you had the funding for it.

visually, what i want to do is:
- fog lights (with HIDs hopefully) - easily picked up on ebay depending on what type of front bar you have. i picked mine up for about $160AUD about 6 months ago, and last time i checked they are still around the same price. HIDs will cost you about $100.
- get rid of my rear spoiler (somewhat undecided still) - do that, its ugly :P
- muffler tip, don't wanna spend too much on a whole exhaust system - just got a muffler tip put in a few months ago as well just for a bit of noise, but does nothing for performance. i opted for the dual muffler rather thant he cannon type muffler, as i think the cannons are alot louder and more grumbly. i also had an intake put in for that nice deeper noise that comes from the engine, it makes it even louder than what it is with the oem airbox! :P too bad no vtec in sedans :(
- rims (eventually) - depends on what look you're going for, like riced said you can go for the JDM look with some nice 16-17" rims or you go for the VIP look and get some nice 18-20" dished rims. i've fitted 18"s on my car and i think it looks small from certain angles, so try get bigger if you can:P
- lower (eventually, a bit worried about the speed bumps in my area haha) - coils will cost you about $2000 for a nice setup which i'm hoping to get soon. dw about speedbumps, they will make you a more cautious driver :P

i hope it works well with whatever you want to do, and as for funds, i think most of us have some sort of jobs that fund our little projects. so maybe you should start with the more affordable options and work your way up, or you can save for a while and blow it all in one go and give your baby a complete makeover :P

and dan, i wish my car had 80kw, sometimes it feels like i've got about 50 if i'm lucky! hehe. i'm hoping to get myself a DC5 or EP3 within the next year or so! I just love the k20 engine! i wish there was also more es1 owners as there aren't many ppl to get information off in regards to modding, or parts for that matter! give us the es1 coupe from the US!! they're hot!

ps. show us some pics of your car dawack :)

[dawack1]

Thanks for the advice, SHU-ES1...mmm it looks likely that fogs + HIDs will be the first thing i'll do, it looks like its the only thing i can afford at the moment hehe. im just a bit worried about having to install them myself. also, does it look weird having HID fogs with normal head lights?

Getting rid of rear spoiler will also be DIY yeah? again, i'm a bit worried about doign all this stuff myself but don't wanna get ripped off. about the muffler tip, i reckon i'll put it in after doing the fogs but there seems to be a lot of choice when it comes to that. pity u can't test out the sound before putting it in hehe.

Suspension + rims would be better done at the same time yeah? i had no idea changing the springs would cost so much, but is that price you mentioned including the coilovers (i have no idea what they are, will check it on google lol).

i'm going to try to put aside around $600 for the fogs + HIDs + muffler tip, then u guys can hook me up with a place where they can install all this stuff for me :P

Anyways, i'll take a pic of my car as soon as ive washed it, im sure it'll be nice for you guys to have a reminder of how a stock civic looks like haha :P. and whatever anyone says, i'm going to believe my civic has 88kw of power as per the specifications haha.

Thanks

[Jokkahk]

i was thinking about getting HID fogs, but i choose not to now coz i already have HID driving lights. so i keep the foglights stock i like it like that :D

me and my cuzin installed the fogs ourselves it was hard at first with the wires and the rest was eazy.

this is my muffler tip lol!
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y254/Chann86/Cars/Photos053.jpg

i have xforce twin loop muffler lying around the house. just cbf putting it on lol

[DC5.Raven]

280kw would be impressive for an ES. :thumbsup:

oh i thought u already had a turbo on it.
what have u got on it now?

and are u getting a turbo kit from america or something or source the parts urself?

[Riced_Civic]

its a prototype kit from Peakboost in the US so its going to be the 1st in Aust for our 7th Gen

the cars going in next week, so it should be done around mid March

[cc1206]

^ you must post pictures of the build :D

[Jokkahk]

^ you must post pictures of the build :D

yeah what he said! :D

[dawack1]

hey SHU-ES1, i've decided to get those same fogs u linked me to ages ago:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Honda-Civic-02-03-Fog-Lights-Fog-lamps-Complete-Set-NEW_W0QQitemZ220360356916QQihZ012QQcategoryZ42613Q QcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262

i like the shape of them compared to the circular ones. i want to get some HIDs for it and one of my friends is selling his 6000k HIDs from his 07 civic fog lights, will they work with this pair? also, what installation instructions did you use?

thanks

EDIT: i found this set of instructions for the 05 hybrid, would it be similar for my 03 sedan even though it has a slightly different front?
http://www.hondapartsdeals.com/HondaInstallGuides/2005_civic/civic_fog_lights.pdf

[Riced_Civic]

dawack1 u do know that they are for a Hybrid Bumper and they wont fit unless u have the Hybrid bumper, not the normal GLi Bumper

[SHU-ES1]

agreed, unless you've got the same bumper that's on mine they're not going to fit. just double check first before you buy it :P

[dawack1]

i see, thanks for that guys (thanks for the pm SHU-ES1). i'll take some pictures of my car, as far as i can tell front bumper is like urs SHU-ES1instead of like jokkah's.

it keeps saying that it failed to attached the pics even though they are within the restrictions :S

try this link if u wanna see my bumper

http://share.ovi.com/channel/dawack1.public

thanks

[Jokkahk]

i see, thanks for that guys (thanks for the pm SHU-ES1). i'll take some pictures of my car, as far as i can tell front bumper is like urs SHU-ES1instead of like jokkah's.

it keeps saying that it failed to attached the pics even though they are within the restrictions :S

then the fog lights will fit then :thumbsup:

[Riced_Civic]

^^^^ what he said

[dawack1]

Thanks, thats a relief - it looked like it would fit anyway. Now to find HIDs for em, are H11's ok?

Thanks to everyone on this thread for helpin a noob out :)

[SHU-ES1]

When you receive the foglights, they should come with globes in them already. Check them first, just to make sure you're going to buy the right ones. I think they are H4's or H4a's, but I'm not a 100&#37; sure as it's been a while since I last had a look at them. I hope that helps.

[Jokkahk]

mines are H11, so it should be the same

[SHU-ES1]

hmmm... i swear mine were hb4's.. ill go double check!

edit: couldn't check, at work, have to sneak my hand in under the bumper :( sorry!

[Jokkahk]

you reckon 15s would be to small for our civics?

[Riced_Civic]

i run 15's on the track, it just really depends on the tire wall i run 205/50/15 and its only like 1 inch(maybe less) lower than my 17

[Jokkahk]

ah ok, coz im looking around for some nice 15s and maybe sell my g-max ? lol

do you have any pictures of your car with 15s on?

[iLlusion10]

friend is currently looking for rims about 16", is it hard to find 16" rims in the 7th gen stud pattern. I think its' 4x100 if i guessed correctly? also what's a recommended width and offset etc.

[Riced_Civic]

theres plenty of 16's rims with 4x100

ill try get a photo with then on, its just that my mate has them on his car atm

[SHU-ES1]

hi danny! :P

[Riced_Civic]

lol, Hi Tony

i think me turbo exhaust is done ill go check it out 2morrow and take sum pics for u ppl

[SHU-ES1]

nicenice! if you start a new build thread, let us know brother!

[SHU-ES1]

i have no idea what offset my rims are but they are 4x100 18" and they fit perfectly! go bigger! :P

[Jokkahk]

gooo smaller :D

[dvscoupe]

I'm running 18" 4x100 +40 offset and they fit perfectly :D

[UNLS1]

oh i havnt made a comment about the 7th gen yet,


it would be the most BORING civic ever made, nothing good about it at all apart from the badge.

if you are 70+ years old this car is for you!

[SHU-ES1]

maybe performance wise, but i think its a nice looking car :P if only they bought the coupe out here in aus, maybe it'd be a bit more popular!

[Riced_Civic]

it was never made to be a fast car, it was made for a low budget family car that can fit kids in the back and luggage in the trunk.

[Jokkahk]

i enjoy driving my car :D

[SHU-ES1]

it was never made to be a fast car, it was made for a low budget family car that can fit kids in the back and luggage in the trunk.

well, a turbo will fix that!!! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: :thumbsup: :p

[Riced_Civic]

tony btw i will be selling my Xforce header so if u or chan want it ill sell for $100

BTW to all the 7th gen ppl who wish to turbo their cars, heres a teaser of the manifold. its just a mock fit

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb278/riced_civic/peakboostD17ramhorn.jpg

[Jokkahk]

fu*K thats a big turbo man! :thumbsup::thumbsup:

did you like the xforce headers and how much power did you gain out of it?

btw im still waiting for the sway bar of you too :p

oh oh ohoh wait do you have a spare front strut bar?

cheers bro! :wave:

[Riced_Civic]

yeah that is a big turbo its a gt30 that will come with the peakboost kit.

sway bar will be given when i get my custom 28mm or 32mm cant decide.

strut bar ill have a look i think i have my old 1 sum where.

xforce felt like it gave me 3 to 5 kw lol.
i got it to get the whole car free flowing since i already and a CAI and exhaust system, it gets very happy after 4k rpm

[Jokkahk]

yeah i dont think i'll be getting the headers then coz i dont have exhaust system and CAI :(

if you do find your strut bar will you sell it heheh :p

[Riced_Civic]

if i find my old strut ofcourse ill sell it, ive already got a new 1.
ive only use my old for like 6 months b4 i swapped it out

[Jokkahk]

hey, just wondering will cusco front strut for dc5, its for the pre face models will it fit to our cars? or do i have to get the non pre face ones?

[Riced_Civic]

yeah it should fit,the chassis is the same, only the body work is different.

[SHU-ES1]

do the headers increase fuel consumption? coz i'm struggling to get 400km as it is for some reason now. i don't know why, it's been like this the last 2-3 top ups i'm running average 9.5L/100km. i haven't driven any differently and air con hasn't been used excessively, so i'm still trying to figure out the problem. you guys ever have this happen to you? i tried that stuff you put in the fuel to clean out the engine so i'm still waiting to see how that goes. i'd like the front strut :) and maybe even the headers too! hahaha.. how much do they cost to install roughly?

[Jokkahk]

yeah it should fit,the chassis is the same, only the body work is different.

sweeeett

[Riced_Civic]

headers to install should only be like 100 max, tho i got mine done for 80, i would not go any higher then 100 other wise it will be a rip.

the header might be sold tony sorry, but if chan is looking at getting a cusco one, and if i can remember where i put it u can take it off me

with the fuel apparently the header give u better fuel eco but i have yet to see any proof of that

[iLlusion10]

Just a quick question, how much would a 14"- >16" rim change affect performance?

[Riced_Civic]

not much, rolling resistance will be like 2&#37;

[SHU-ES1]

let me know if chan doesn't want the headers, ill most likely grab them off ya and give them a shot :P and the strut brace as well :)

[spudspanner]

Have only just looked at the comments
I have 2001 Vi auto got it as demo in 2002
Have averaged 7.32l/100km and regularly get 600km per tank. My guess is it has a 45l tank as I've gone over 43l at a fillup. Best was 707km but that included country driving. Most of my driving is city rush hour tho Adelaide is not as clogged as Sydney or Melbourne and you can average 50kmh on a drive to work. I'm not a snail pace driver either so don't know what you others are doing that uses so much fuel.
Good points
Plenty of legroom front and back. I'm 6'3" and will fit in back with driver's seat right back. No other car in it's class for room inside.
Good power leaves Corollas Lancers Nissans of similar cc for dead. VTEC is definite advantage but you've got to keep the revs up. Would prefer manual but wife can't drive them.
Fuel consumption obviously. Used to have 88 DX sedan and had a CRX 1600 TC auto dropped into that, was quite quick then but used more fuel than the Vi and wasn't as quick.
Against
Seats are too small and uncomfortable. Would like Recaros but $2000 per seat is rediculous. Had some in a 78 Accord I had, awesome, wish I'd kept them. Have been told no other Honda seats fit an EU Vi w/o lot of work. Anyone got some Type R EP3? seats they don't want?
Gearbox won't kick down quick enough when negotiating small roundabouts and there is a definite hesitation when you put on the gas which Honda says they can't fault but I think it's dangerous if you need power in a hurry after slowing down or braking.
Overall good set of wheels but I would like to change the wheels and tyres and get some better seats.

[Riced_Civic]

Have only just looked at the comments
I have 2001 Vi auto got it as demo in 2002
Have averaged 7.32l/100km and regularly get 600km per tank. My guess is it has a 45l tank as I've gone over 43l at a fillup. Best was 707km but that included country driving. Most of my driving is city rush hour tho Adelaide is not as clogged as Sydney or Melbourne and you can average 50kmh on a drive to work. I'm not a snail pace driver either so don't know what you others are doing that uses so much fuel.
Good points
Plenty of legroom front and back. I'm 6'3" and will fit in back with driver's seat right back. No other car in it's class for room inside.
Good power leaves Corollas Lancers Nissans of similar cc for dead. VTEC is definite advantage but you've got to keep the revs up. Would prefer manual but wife can't drive them.
Fuel consumption obviously. Used to have 88 DX sedan and had a CRX 1600 TC auto dropped into that, was quite quick then but used more fuel than the Vi and wasn't as quick.
Against
Seats are too small and uncomfortable. Would like Recaros but $2000 per seat is rediculous. Had some in a 78 Accord I had, awesome, wish I'd kept them. Have been told no other Honda seats fit an EU Vi w/o lot of work. Anyone got some Type R EP3? seats they don't want?
Gearbox won't kick down quick enough when negotiating small roundabouts and there is a definite hesitation when you put on the gas which Honda says they can't fault but I think it's dangerous if you need power in a hurry after slowing down or braking.
Overall good set of wheels but I would like to change the wheels and tyres and get some better seats.


2000 per seat wtf r they gold fabric or sum thin.

[spudspanner]

Cheapest Recaro is $2100 so they tell me
they were $650 in 1980 ea
Great seat my drivers seat had speakers in the headrest
had money then was single marriage curbs the $$ to spend on cars unless your dad is rich
I saw some 2008 Civic Type R seats on Ebay and the guy reckoned they were $8000 per set from Honda reckon that was bull tho

[SHU-ES1]

damn, those must be some expensive seats. i picked up my recaro tomcats for $200 a pair with rails :P but thats off family.. hehe.. lucky me i guess! i don't know why my fuel economy is so shit! i think i need a tuning up? any suggestions as to why my car is running so poorly?

[Riced_Civic]

could be just due for a service

[SHU-ES1]

well, it has been 5 years :P maybe you're right! and i think you found yourself a fan that day of the meet :P if you read the reflections thread! :D

[dvscoupe]

I agree with spudspanner, after doing wheels and suspension in my EU I find the seats are crap.

Overall though I'm happy with mine :D

[SHU-ES1]

is there a cheaper option to coilovers other than springs? which will give me a nice low and firm ride?

[Jokkahk]

is there a cheaper option to coilovers other than springs? which will give me a nice low and firm ride?

coilovers if you have the money i guess

[dvscoupe]

I did a bit of research and went the coil overs but there may be cheaper alternatves out there. My coil overs owe me $1195 plus install which is bugger all I reckon

[SHU-ES1]

hey! thats an awesome price, danny told me he paid $1800 for the coils alone which is a bit more than i want to spend on my car. where did you get them from? if you don't mind PM'ing me with the details, that would be great. Perhaps its cheaper for the hatch, compared to the sedan? but that is an awesome price to pay for coils! I hoping to get some by the time I get my tax return mid year! :P

[SHU-ES1]

also, i have another question here. my car is auto, and usually when i'm doing 100km/hr on the freeway the revs should be around 2.5k when its warmed up and good to go. but recently, it seems to go back down a gear and i'm running around 3k revs when i'm doing 100km/hr. does anyone know why this is the case? do i need to change my transmission fluid? or is this the first signs of a failing transmission? :(

[dvscoupe]

I'll pm the details tonight for you.

With the auto when was the last service done on it?

[Jokkahk]

rice_civic you got pmd

:wave:

[SHU-ES1]

i don't remember the last time my transmission was last looked at. does the transmission fluid need to be changed often? i just hope it doesn't fail me when i'm going to and from work or something like that.

dvs-still waiting for the PM in regards to coil prices. thanks bro! :P

[Riced_Civic]

pm replied chan

tony on the free way sitting at 100 i rev at about 2.8/3k rpm

btw tony i can get a decent coilover for 1500 installed but then again i could sell u mine as i might be getting custom KONI Coilovers, but ill have to see how finances go after i get my turbo.

[SHU-ES1]

ooOO.. that sounds awesome, how much?

[Riced_Civic]

if i get my KONIs ill help out a fellow 7th gena for a price of 500

[dvscoupe]

Damn :eek:

[SHU-ES1]

ok, i'll shotgun them off you dannY :P how many k's have you clocked up on them? or does that not matter? i'm not to educated when it comes to suspension n stuff like that! i see you also saw the reflections thread, haha.. funny stuff, i never knew you were in a band? :P

[Riced_Civic]

well the coils have been on the car for 4 years and and have been to a few trackdays, but they still going strong and i havent had any problems with them. saying that my car only has 28000 km on it.

lol the reflection thread i was like wtf theres pic of me floating around. yeah been in a band since 04'.

[Jokkahk]

i want to paint my foglights yellow..

what you guys think?

[iLlusion10]

also, i have another question here. my car is auto, and usually when i'm doing 100km/hr on the freeway the revs should be around 2.5k when its warmed up and good to go. but recently, it seems to go back down a gear and i'm running around 3k revs when i'm doing 100km/hr. does anyone know why this is the case? do i need to change my transmission fluid? or is this the first signs of a failing transmission? :(

Friends 7th gen civic stock as a rock, manual does about 3k-3.5k revs at 100km/h as well, which kinda surprises me cos my sisters getz auto with a tiny engine does about 2k-2.5k rpm on the freeway. Also if your air conditioner is on your revs might be slightly higher as well.

[iLlusion10]

is it possible for someone to photoshop these:
http://www.rotawheels.com/images/products/spider_3.jpg

on a black civic =S my photoshops skills aren't exactly up to scratch

[SHU-ES1]

they look like the civic sports rims! you planning on getting them for your es1?

also, my fuel economy has improved again since i went back to using bp ultimate, v power etc. i think it was the crappy fuel i was putting in for a while that made my efficiency really crap. i even put in e10, that stuff is really bad! my last top up with v-power gave me 7.99L/100km! woooot!

[iLlusion10]

nah im looking for a friend who has an es1 haha, i ask all the questions for him =P how would black on black look though.

Can anyone photoshop it on by any chance?

[Jokkahk]

nah im looking for a friend who has an es1 haha, i ask all the questions for him =P how would black on black look though.

Can anyone photoshop it on by any chance?

i did my best :p

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y254/Chann86/Chan/photoshop.jpg

[iLlusion10]

sweet thanks mate, appreciate it a LOT!

[SHU-ES1]

hahahah dandan... that looks mad! wish i had that kit on my car :)

[Jokkahk]

sweet thanks mate, appreciate it a LOT!

no worries man :thumbsup:

[Jokkahk]

any updates with the OEM rear bumper Dan?

[Riced_Civic]

hahahah dandan... that looks mad! wish i had that kit on my car :)

he has the same skirts i have the skit so fkn low dunno if i should keep em or go bak to OEM.

im def selling my STi lip and front lip and getting a Mugen so who ever wants it its up for grabs

also the mechanic has been busy tuning a few cars this week so he hasnt had time to call honda so well just have to wait a little longer, but next week ill push to get a price.

[Jokkahk]

oem FTW! buuttt up to you man

no rush with the rear bumper :thumbsup:

[bootheman]

anyone got standard struts for a 7th gen civic?
if so il trade you my H&R Springs ?

im putting it back to stock for sale
thanks

0401324898
justin.lilburne@thempire.com.au

[Jokkahk]

mmmm H&R

[bootheman]

ya!
front and rear spring's

im just after some stock standard struts!
needs to happen asap

or if anyones got some aftermarket struts, cheap il take them
18" wheels and stock suspention is a bad idea!

[Riced_Civic]

ive got my stock sussy for $500, but i wont seperate the strut from the springs they have only done 15,000 km. pm if interested

[Riced_Civic]

acutally i lied they have done 10,000km

[spudspanner]

SEATS for a 7th Gen Civic EU 4 door
Does Anyone know if any other Honda seats will fit this model w/o modification?
If not what seat will fit with minimum mods? and can anyone show some photos of what they've done?
I know the EP3 Civic Type R JDM seats (EXPENSIVE as are Recaros)fit straight in but what about Integra, Prelude seats any of them fit an EU?

[Riced_Civic]

u can make any seat fit as long as u have the right brackets,

[spudspanner]

Granted, that's a given.
What I would like to know is if any better quality seats from Honda will fit with the least hassle.

[Jokkahk]

dc5 seats i guess?

[spudspanner]

Thanks Jokkahk!
I have seen photos of these on Ebay and such and wondered if they would fit as the runners look very similar with the same shape
I will hit the wreckers tomorrow and try out those first
Will let youse know what I find.

[Jokkahk]

:thumbsup:

[SHU-ES1]

can someone tell me the difference between shock absorbers and coilovers? i had a quote from koni in regards to shock absorbers for my es1, and they said $950 for both front and rear but i was told shock absorbers didn't come with springs? is this correct? also, in regards to being able to adjust height and ride stiffness, which is better? i was thinking of getting coilovers, can anyone suggest any other brands with reasonable pricing where i can find the melbourne distributors?

[bootheman]

i have H&R Sports springs for cheap , then just get some shocks

Shocks and springs come seprate, and are usally sold in front and rear "pairs"

[SHU-ES1]

how much for the springs? i saw your ad on firesport, hopefully it's cheaper than that now :P

[wokstar88]

dc5 seats i guess?

7th Gen civic = slower DC5 with more doors ^^

[clayton4115]

how do i know how slow my car is compared to other generation civics?

[Riced_Civic]

7th Gen civic = slower DC5 with more doors ^^

i wouldnt call the EP3 slow

[SHU-ES1]

ep3 is definately not slow! love pulling up against v8s and giving them a good run for their petrol consumption :P

[wokstar88]

Didn't mean the WHOLE 7th gen Civic were slow, calm down all of ya. GLi, Hybrid, Vi is crap slow stock standard. EP3 on the other hand is 'wtf happened to the gene pool?'
But just saying cos its based on the same platform as a DC5 its literally the same car with a smaller engine and more doors. Check it out from the from fenders the wheel base and the A-pillar, pretty much the same.

[SHU-ES1]

finally put the DC5R rear sway bar on! you were right danny, the difference is like day and night! awesome upgrade for anyone wanting cheap mod for less bodyroll.

[Riced_Civic]

u finally put it on, better if its the right way around huh.. lol

[SHU-ES1]

loving the more firm ride i get when going around bends/corners, feels like the car actually sticks a little now. can't wait for my coilovers to be done in july! gonna be awesome! thanks again for the help dan. oh, and you're right the car does feel like it revs harder and breathes easier with the headers/exhaust! i left your cannon and jack stands at AK, did you get them back?

[Riced_Civic]

there still there i keep forgetting to take em