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nisboi40
01-01-2009, 08:50 PM
Disclaimer: The following is provided as a GUIDE ONLY, and neither myself nor Ozhonda take any responsibility for the outcomes of someone else doing the following. You follow these steps at your own risk!

Here's a guide on how to carbon overlay parts of your car.

You will need the following parts -

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/markj113/tools.jpg

Carbon cloth (twil looks best)
resin
acetone (if u want to clean your brushes - i use cheap ones and bin them)
plenty of latex gloves
mixing pots
measuring jug
syringe (for measuring hardner)
masking tape
Sharp scissors
Some stirrers - I use wooded spatulars
emery cloth
wet n dry 400grit to 1200 grit
polish

1) measure up your carbon cloth for the piece to be covered. Then using the masking tape tape up both sides where you intend to cut the cloth to prevent pulling the weave then cut through the middle of the tape -

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l28/schnorky40/1111Carbonoverlay1.jpg

2) Prep your piece to be overlayed - it should be black, if its not spray it up first so a colour doesnt show through the weave. It also needs a rub down with emery cloth.


3) brush a thin layer of resin mixed with 1% harder over the part to be overlayed then press the carbon cloth gently into place and tape up to the rear of the part to pull it into shape. You may need to change your gloves often so you dont pull the weave. Leave to dry for approx 45mins


http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l28/schnorky40/33322sill1.jpg

4) Start building up thing layers of resin, you will need approx 5 layers to prevent breaking through to the cloth when sanding down. Each additional layer should be added after around 7 mins when the previous layer turns to a jelly consistency. You will now need to leave it for 1 week to fully cure -



http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l28/schnorky40/3333finish1.jpg

5) you will now need to trim the excess cloth off - best tool I found was a dremmel -

BEFORE:
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l28/schnorky40/4444trim2.jpg

AFTER TRIMMING:
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l28/schnorky40/55555trim3.jpg


6) Start sanding down. work your way from 400 grit up to 1200 grit wet and dry then finish with a good quality polish for a really nice shine -



http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l28/schnorky40/666finish2-1.jpg




http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l28/schnorky40/777finish4-1.jpg

:):) turned out more better than i expected
next ill be doing the entire bonnet of my ej8
and ill hav a cf hood that cant be defected XD
post pics up soon
tc guys

Red_EG4
01-01-2009, 11:15 PM
Thanks for the DIY. You might like to put the [IMG] tags around your picture links. I think you need to add the OzHonda disclaimer aswell.

and ill hav a cf hood that cant be defected XD

Well you never know, anything can be defected.

Is it possible to get more information on resin/catalyst ratios?
Do you do this sort of thing a lot? end result looks great.

M@lew
01-01-2009, 11:30 PM
Nice one! I wonder if any panel beaters/detailing will do this for you or if they even know how.

VTI-16L
02-01-2009, 01:00 AM
LOL i found the same DIY not long ago on the net, nice DIY

Spoon-Accord
02-01-2009, 02:41 AM
i am actually gonna do this,

i used to make bodykits, and this does seem familiar in the fibreglass trade

wonder where i can get this stuff in victoria?

good work btw

95civic
02-01-2009, 08:06 AM
I think I have seen this DIY before on the net...Copy paste??

Anyone know where to buy in Vic?

JasonGilholme
02-01-2009, 08:45 AM
how are you going to go about the bonnet? Do you have a roll which is as wide as the bonnet?

Cause if not you'll have to join them half way and it may look crap.

nisboi40
02-01-2009, 09:59 AM
its not going to be 1 whole piece on the bonnet
noway you can get a sheet that big so ill be measuing up length ways
and because its twil carbon weave all ill be doing is stitching black cotton thread underneath the carbon material so it will look like one piece once completed
its very easy to much up once you buy some you'll no what i mean
cheers

nisboi40
02-01-2009, 10:01 AM
Thanks for the DIY. You might like to put the [IMG] tags around your picture links. I think you need to add the OzHonda disclaimer aswell.

Well you never know, anything can be defected.

Is it possible to get more information on resin/catalyst ratios?
Do you do this sort of thing a lot? end result looks great.

nar mate 1st time doing it and wasnt that hard at all
not sure bout the ratios mate just try do your best
i practiced on a small block of wood couple times before
i actually started on my car
and i surgest that to everyone who wants to try it
:wave:

nisboi40
02-01-2009, 10:08 AM
I think I have seen this DIY before on the net...Copy paste??

Anyone know where to buy in Vic?

yer i found it a long time ago but thought id give it a try
nd it turned out really good so id thought id share it with ozhonda XD
for all the cf look lovers

nisboi40
02-01-2009, 10:11 AM
i am actually gonna do this,

i used to make bodykits, and this does seem familiar in the fibreglass trade

wonder where i can get this stuff in victoria?

good work btw

its like the same as fiberglassing
so if you have done it before its always and advantage :)
you should be able to find some at your local fiberglass shop
just ask around that's the best way..
cheers guys

95civic
02-01-2009, 10:23 AM
Where did you get yours from?

felixd
02-01-2009, 02:16 PM
WOW where did u get the fibre cloth from :)

simonnowis
02-01-2009, 02:40 PM
nicee! pics with your work on the car!

Red_EG4
02-01-2009, 03:23 PM
nar mate 1st time doing it and wasnt that hard at all
not sure bout the ratios mate just try do your best
i practiced on a small block of wood couple times before
i actually started on my car
and i surgest that to everyone who wants to try it
:wave:
Im not an expert but during year 11 & 12 I did a fair bit of composite work (Carbon/Kevlar). I can't remember our exact ratios but we certainly knew when we had them wrong :p
Where abouts on the car does that piece actually go?

nisboi40
02-01-2009, 04:00 PM
They go on the door panels these ones were for my mates car, but ill be doing my ej8 soon

Red_EG4
02-01-2009, 04:07 PM
did the carbon affect the fit of the panel?

BusterSonic12
04-01-2009, 06:50 PM
looks awesome!!

nisboi40
04-01-2009, 10:08 PM
yer man that fit snug
just dont make the thick resin around the edges
i found a shop in seven hills for all the nsw members
but most fibreglassing shops should stock them
good thing to ring around thats what i did:)
thanks for the rates guys keep it coming:)

Red_EG4
04-01-2009, 11:12 PM
will you do a similar DIY for the bonnet?

JDM80Y
12-01-2009, 10:52 PM
Wow, this thread is great!

Carbon Fibre is like JDM bling... Thanks for the instructions bro!

STiR
13-01-2009, 08:27 AM
That looks great

quenjose
13-01-2009, 08:46 AM
nice work :thumbsup:

just 2 questions if u dont mind...

1. was there any noticable warpage/shrinkage once the resin cured?

2. working on the same principle, if i inserted say a sheet of say baking paper in between the mould and the fibre cloth, do u think i'd be able to remove the cured fibre off the mould, or would the resin stick to the baking paper anyway?

thanks

mars_panas
13-01-2009, 08:53 AM
great DIY....

looks good too

wkd_crx
13-01-2009, 10:51 AM
is there any one in Melbourne that does this kinda of thing?

nisboi40
13-01-2009, 12:30 PM
yer mate you can buy the cf rolls from most fiberglassing shops
just ring around and you should find sum shops that sell it
ask for twill cf weave gets a better effect :)

Red_EG4
13-01-2009, 07:27 PM
2. working on the same principle, if i inserted say a sheet of say baking paper in between the mould and the fibre cloth, do u think i'd be able to remove the cured fibre off the mould, or would the resin stick to the baking paper anyway?

when using a mould it's good to smooth the surface out and paint it or overlay a vinyl on it, then use a mould release wax before applying the carbon and resin.

xntrik
14-01-2009, 12:41 AM
is this diy your's ? its 2 years old.

good stuff anyway.

nisboi40
14-01-2009, 12:53 AM
nar its recent bro
just havnt set up the date on my camera
its an old shity one i cbf
thanx for the rate bro :)

Cartoon
14-01-2009, 08:27 AM
LOL this aint ur OWN DIY. you copy and pasted of net you clown. i found this exact diy on the net. LOL

anyways, here's a BETTER DIY carbon overlay.

http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e39-m5-e52-z8-discussion/71329-diy-carbon-fibre-lots-pics.html

nisboi40
14-01-2009, 09:34 AM
yer its called i wrote in other forums dikhead
posting new pics soonn!!!

cvicek
14-01-2009, 10:10 AM
yer its called i wrote in other forums dikhead
posting new pics soonn!!!


rofl :p


- can't wait to see more pic, great job by the way

SIP117
14-01-2009, 11:22 AM
gud juobbbb mannn....
can u do mine as well?!?!?!

Cartoon
14-01-2009, 12:48 PM
yer its called i wrote in other forums dikhead
posting new pics soonn!!!

no need for name calling.

(http://www.skylineowners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=95762)

nisboi40
14-01-2009, 01:47 PM
gud juobbbb mannn....
can u do mine as well?!?!?!

lol do your what
depends on what piece you want to be cf'd

nisboi40
14-01-2009, 01:48 PM
no need for name calling.

(http://www.skylineowners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=95762)

sorry mate

ek4-guy
14-01-2009, 01:49 PM
hurry up and get pics of your cars part done

dundas
14-01-2009, 02:02 PM
very nice mate.
i do like your handy work :)

wkd_crx
15-01-2009, 11:49 AM
are u in melb?

nisboi40
15-01-2009, 12:39 PM
hurry up and get pics of your cars part done

hold on mate havnt had the time lately
be up soon

nisboi40
15-01-2009, 12:40 PM
very nice mate.
i do like your handy work :)

cheers brro :)

DogAteCat
15-01-2009, 02:21 PM
Would like to know where i could get carbon overlays in melb!

wkd_crx
16-01-2009, 10:21 AM
same same.!

Gio
16-01-2009, 10:36 AM
Do you read.

He said at any fibro place.

Get off ur behinds and go have a look.

SIP117
16-01-2009, 11:56 AM
lol do your what
depends on what piece you want to be cf'd
lips spoiler man....
let me know if u can and how much would u charge me??;);):confused:

nisboi40
19-01-2009, 10:06 AM
lips spoiler man....
let me know if u can and how much would u charge me??;);):confused:

been bit busy man
havnt had enough time to do my own project:(
ill get back to you if your still interested
giv it ago your self its fun:)

marky53
19-01-2009, 11:32 AM
with a google search I managed to find:

http://www.solidsolutions.com.au/view_products.php?cat=31

I also saw some for sale on ebay but from international sellers

SIP117
20-01-2009, 11:24 PM
been bit busy man
havnt had enough time to do my own project:(
ill get back to you if your still interested
giv it ago your self its fun:)

im not as handy as u man...:thumbdwn:

let me know when ever u free...
next week,next month, dont tell me next year but...

Please let me know when will u free so i wont get my lips spoiler to be painted..:)

do u want me to leave u my number??

aznbikerboi
29-01-2009, 11:38 PM
do u use the exact same resin as fibreglass??
if so my cars gona be covered in carbon fibre :P

turtle187
30-01-2009, 08:24 AM
F*** awesome thread, im gonna do this tomorow hehe
how much did the equipment cost you?

nisboi40
30-01-2009, 09:10 AM
do u use the exact same resin as fibreglass??
if so my cars gona be covered in carbon fibre :P

haha yer i think doesnt matter what resin you use
i wana do my whole car but my girlfriend wont let me lol

nisboi40
30-01-2009, 09:11 AM
F*** awesome thread, im gonna do this tomorow hehe
how much did the equipment cost you?

all rounded up to be round 90 bucks
but i got plently left over
can cf couple more items :)
the cf sheeting is the most expensive
cheers guys :p

aznbikerboi
30-01-2009, 03:29 PM
$90 bucks all up :S
i got qouted $100 for 1 square meter of just the cloth

nisboi40
30-01-2009, 06:26 PM
yer i got the cloth discounted coz of my m8 XD

nisboi40
30-01-2009, 06:54 PM
hey guys just chek found the user cp button lol
i didnt no your guys were repin me
thanks for all of them and keep them coming
MORE PICS COMING :)

SIP117
30-01-2009, 07:43 PM
when can u do mine man???plizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

turtle187
01-02-2009, 08:06 AM
any1 in syd know where to buy this material?

GIPONU
01-02-2009, 07:49 PM
u can get CF clotch from ebay.com. done it many times.
just cbf making a DIY on CF parts.
u should use Epoxy resin.
u can also get all this stuff in a victorian company called "solid solutions" tey hav a website too. google it.

and instead of using a dremmel.
i usually take my time doing things.
sowat i did was, i put a thin layer of resin. wait for it to be touch dry. and then trim it witha sharp blade. then once completely dry. use a nylon scotchbrite pad and degloss the suface and add more resin. and keep repeating untill th amount of layers u need.
then at the end sand down and finish in 800 grit (all this usually takes a week anyways)
then i take it to work and wack some 2K clear on it using 30% thinners so the clear sits flatter.

Tip: over large areas u need to use a vacuum(dont ask i neva done) because bubbles form. happen to me one time wen i was doing a CF insert where the intercooler sits on a S15 vertex front bar...

nisboi40
02-02-2009, 05:04 PM
hmm intresting
i havnt seen mine to bubble yet

eg5civic
02-02-2009, 05:26 PM
I Vacuum bagged a few things at school for a project

we end up vacuum bagging a seat that we hand moulded which was cf, and we vacuum bagged the whole shell for the car but that was epoxy not cf

Vacuum bagging is a bit harder as it needs to have constant suction for a good 4-5 hours off the top of my head... can't say the neighbors would appreciate a compressor going for that long

BIGTYM
08-08-2009, 12:44 PM
This is a great DIY well done bro. Seriously inspired me to CF my interior plastic bits.

redefine
08-08-2009, 02:39 PM
man what part is that?? i cant pick it.


oh and is it possible to do el cheapo and get glass weave sprayed black?? anyone know of any possible problems. hahaha :P just an idea.

OzSir2
21-10-2009, 08:44 PM
Excellent looking result. Back to type of resin used - is "epoxy" a specific resin or does it just refer to one that is in 2 parts (i.e. resin and hardener/catalyst)? I believe "polyester" resin is mostly used with fibreglass. Were you using polyester resin?