Simota Cold Air Intake Review (massive pic warning)

[VTEC16]

Disclaimer: The following is provided as a GUIDE ONLY, and neither myself nor Ozhonda take any responsibility for the outcomes of someone else doing the following. You follow these steps at your own risk!

Aim: To install a nice shiny CAI onto my EK4.

Required: CAI, basic hand tools( Spanners, philips heads, knife, beer) and more complex tools (a mate).

Steps: Unbolt and unclip all stock intake parts, bolt up new intake. Was relatively easy - took and afternoon of trial and error to install. (no instructions included - PM me and ill send you some links for install pages).

Review: So i bought this intake from "egSi" (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/member.php?userid=1455), who sent it promptly - no problems at all. It cost somewhere around the 200 mark....

When it arrived I pieced it all together on my bed :

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNjA5NDYyNnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg

So the next weekend me and a mate got stuck into the install. Trial and error saw us getting the stock stuff out... We had a bit of difficulty when my powerlifter mate went a bit nuts tightening the metal 'zip-tie' clamp thingy - but a trip to the local hardware store sorted that out. The 'rubber tube thing' (part of the clamp device- the inside bit) was quite hard to get over the throttle body opening - but with some ingenuity (getting a metal tin and hammering the inside of it to push the rubber onto the TB....or something like that) it was all good.

So - the intake was installed:

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNjA5NDYxNnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg


.....now for the test drive. In neutral - giving it a bit of a rev, not much difference was apparent at all.....a bit worried at this stage. So we set out onto the road. For some reason the traffic was kinda hectic - driving 40 in a school zone ruled out any serious revving.

....but dandenong road (princess highway) was within sight - patiently waiting for the green arrow to turn......then gunned it in second after the corner. Whooaaarrrrrr!! I'll have to get a sound recording for you guys...

I didnt want to make any calls about any power gain....the sound was soo different that it was very hard to actually compare. So i went to the local legal - off street drag meet and ran my mate's integra VTi-R.... he usually beats me....but i was consistantly beating him....not by much....but still. (que "it doesnt matter if you win by an inch or a mile...." vin deisal speach).

Iv now had my intake for around a month - iv had no problems with it at all. The sound of my car has changed - the exhaust now sounds deeper....and my car seems to be pulling very very nicely. So i went to the local legal - off street drag meet and ran an S14 (with intake and BOV) and got it off the line - he came back.....but not enough. Same with an S2000 (with very loud exhaust and dunno wot else) who wasnt dragging at start - but then tried to come back at me without too much success. Both the S2K and S14 were quite suprised and asked me wot mods i had and giving me the thumbs up. (Note that my car is not faster than either an S14 or an S2K - but i was trying to illustrate that my car is faster than everything....i mean ....it gave them a bit of a run....wheras before it wasnt really that close).

The cool thing about the cold air intake - is that the filter is mounted behind the bumper - so it sucks in cold air...and the filter is mounted in a much cooler place - so when it is filtering the air, its not heating the air (like engine bay filters do, even if they have a cold air feed). To prevent hydrolock, you can mount the filter in the engine bay during winter.

To sum it all up - it wasnt too expensive, was relatively easy to install, sounds great and goes harder.

What more can you ask for?

If you've got any questions - PM me.

Cheers,
mike.

[toE]

Nice write-up Micheal. :)

Great *cough*huge-arse*cough* pics btw. ;)

[zco]

is this the only mod u hav on ur car.?

[egSi]

whoa nice write up man,
the egSi guy has got it goin on

[VTEC16]

Nice write-up Micheal. :)

Great *cough*huge-arse*cough* pics btw. ;)

cheers - i did give a "massive pic warning" ....my editing software has decided to crash....



is this the only mod u hav on ur car.?

iv got a 2.25" cat-back as well.....shoulda put it somewhere there...



whoa nice write up man,
the egSi guy has got it goin on

thanks man - nahh.....he's not really all that :p

[Lukezen27]

I just got one of these tho it didn’t come with any nuts or bolts to bolt it on

Is this normal?

Thx Luke

[vtek]

can you get the bypass valves for these like the AEM ones

[HRV-80Y]

VTEC16 shit man dat intake is longer den mine...wen u giv it...jus b4 vtec kicks in does it sound like a cow ? n moooo's ?....or in low gears at high revs ?

[iced]

got any times?
how faster did u run with the CAI
we know its sounds cool :D

[sheepo]

dman ur making me wanna buy a CAI! =D those pics are HUGE!

[VTEC16]

luke - mine came with all nuts n' bolts (ps- dont have access to my links atm - be a couple days)

vtek - dont think so man - but theres not really any point - they make you lost power.

HRVboy - wtf man? my car aint no cow - me n' my drunk brother had a good laugh at that LOL!

iced - no times at all......just the drags against my mates...and seat of the pants... sorry.

sheepo - get one! ....for the last time, i did put a 'massive pic warning'

Cheers all,

mike.

[fried]

Disclaimer: The following is provided as a GUIDE ONLY, and neither myself nor Ozhonda take any responsibility for the outcomes of someone else doing the following. You follow these steps at your own risk!

Aim: To install a nice shiny CAI onto my EK4.

Required: CAI, basic hand tools( Spanners, philips heads, knife, beer) and more complex tools (a mate).

Steps: Unbolt and unclip all stock intake parts, bolt up new intake. Was relatively easy - took and afternoon of trial and error to install. (no instructions included - PM me and ill send you some links for install pages).

Review: So i bought this intake from "egSi" (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/member.php?userid=1455), who sent it promptly - no problems at all. It cost somewhere around the 200 mark....

When it arrived I pieced it all together on my bed :

So the next weekend me and a mate got stuck into the install. Trial and error saw us getting the stock stuff out... We had a bit of difficulty when my powerlifter mate went a bit nuts tightening the metal 'zip-tie' clamp thingy - but a trip to the local hardware store sorted that out. The 'rubber tube thing' (part of the clamp device- the inside bit) was quite hard to get over the throttle body opening - but with some ingenuity (getting a metal tin and hammering the inside of it to push the rubber onto the TB....or something like that) it was all good.

So - the intake was installed:

.....now for the test drive. In neutral - giving it a bit of a rev, not much difference was apparent at all.....a bit worried at this stage. So we set out onto the road. For some reason the traffic was kinda hectic - driving 40 in a school zone ruled out any serious revving.

....but dandenong road (princess highway) was within sight - patiently waiting for the green arrow to turn......then gunned it in second after the corner. Whooaaarrrrrr!! I'll have to get a sound recording for you guys...

I didnt want to make any calls about any power gain....the sound was soo different that it was very hard to actually compare. So i went to the local legal - off street drag meet and ran my mate's integra VTi-R.... he usually beats me....but i was consistantly beating him....not by much....but still. (que "it doesnt matter if you win by an inch or a mile...." vin deisal speach).

Iv now had my intake for around a month - iv had no problems with it at all. The sound of my car has changed - the exhaust now sounds deeper....and my car seems to be pulling very very nicely. So i went to the local legal - off street drag meet and ran an S14 (with intake and BOV) and got it off the line - he came back.....but not enough. Same with an S2000 (with very loud exhaust and dunno wot else) who wasnt dragging at start - but then tried to come back at me without too much success. Both the S2K and S14 were quite suprised and asked me wot mods i had and giving me the thumbs up. (Note that my car is not faster than either an S14 or an S2K - but i was trying to illustrate that my car is faster than everything....i mean ....it gave them a bit of a run....wheras before it wasnt really that close).

The cool thing about the cold air intake - is that the filter is mounted behind the bumper - so it sucks in cold air...and the filter is mounted in a much cooler place - so when it is filtering the air, its not heating the air (like engine bay filters do, even if they have a cold air feed). To prevent hydrolock, you can mount the filter in the engine bay during winter.

To sum it all up - it wasnt too expensive, was relatively easy to install, sounds great and goes harder.

What more can you ask for?

If you've got any questions - PM me.

Cheers,
mike.

WHAT THE?

i think i am slightly sceptical??? i know u have not made calls about any power gains - instead, illistrations.

but according to ur illistrations, u are saying that ur new intake is responsible for extra power. extra power to be able to now beat ur friends dc2, extra power to be able to give s2k and s14 a run for their money.

??? i know CAI, and SRI mods are possibly to most popular and easy mods that people can do, and are very widely done, but i dont know anyone who has ever concluded that it was responsible for extra power - or rather that is was responsible for them being able to beat other cars (in ur example).

is it really THAT black and white? or have i mistaken what uve written?

(pls note, this is not a flame mike, just wanna be clear - great write up!)

[bennjamin]

guys.....

it is a proven fact that a CAI will not increase HP ATW majorly if anything at all....especially on a stock engine. PLEASE mike , dyno graph ur car BEFORE and AFTER to prove to the world any results ok !


BTW.....far as i know and have experienced - a good CAI "feels" to improve flow and pull etc.....but is it only really noise = confidence equation ? What do HP numbers ATW really matter anyway ? IF this helsp u win....its what gives u the edge :)

[VTEC16]

WHAT THE?

i think i am slightly sceptical??? i know u have not made calls about any power gains - instead, illistrations.

but according to ur illistrations, u are saying that ur new intake is responsible for extra power. extra power to be able to now beat ur friends dc2, extra power to be able to give s2k and s14 a run for their money.

??? i know CAI, and SRI mods are possibly to most popular and easy mods that people can do, and are very widely done, but i dont know anyone who has ever concluded that it was responsible for extra power - or rather that is was responsible for them being able to beat other cars (in ur example).

is it really THAT black and white? or have i mistaken what uve written?

(pls note, this is not a flame mike, just wanna be clear - great write up!)

Yes - i am saying that i think i got more power. I wouldnt say i am alone in saying that it gives more power (as opposed to "i dont know anyone who has ever concluded that it was responsible for extra power").

I have a cat-back exhaust and a CAI - my car is certainly not as fast as an S2000 or a S14.....i gave them a bit of a run- no i didnt beat them.....nor was it that close to the S2000.....but it seemed closer than my other encounters. i was just trying to illustrate that my car seems more powerful than before - which obviously came out as "my car is as fast as XXX car"....though i tried to avoid this in my initial post.

Me and my mate (DC VTi-R) have always been very close in drags - with him previously winning more than me....but it seems that now my car usually pulls a tad on him. Yes - this could be due to a number of unrelated reasons - but both our tires are in same condition.....he has a cat-back as well...

Im not saying i got a 20wkw gain..... i cant speculate on numbers (wouldnt be more than a few)....but im just saying that my car seems faster due to my comparisons with other cars.

No flame taken :thumbsup:

[VTEC16]

guys.....

it is a proven fact that a CAI will not increase HP ATW majorly if anything at all....especially on a stock engine. PLEASE mike , dyno graph ur car BEFORE and AFTER to prove to the world any results ok !


BTW.....far as i know and have experienced - a good CAI "feels" to improve flow and pull etc.....but is it only really noise = confidence equation ? What do HP numbers ATW really matter anyway ? IF this helsp u win....its what gives u the edge :)

True - i did not gain a lot of power from this mod!
I do believe i gained SOME high end power. Although im not gonna dyno my car....sorry ben.

When i first wrote the article - i didnt put any assumptions as to whether i gained power or not. The noise was too overwhelming for me to objectively say whether my car was faster or not. I know about the pseudo effect etc.

It was only after running other cars that i noticed an improvement.

When two relatively even cars are matched up against eachother (my civic and my mate's ingtegra), a very small amount of extra power can make the difference between winning and losing.

...I think the main problem is that i wrote the CAI review along with a couple of experiences, which maybe i shouldnt have put in. They dont really objectively tell anything......they were more - 'had to be there' moments.

Guys- im honestly not one of those guys that sais 'i got 10kw from this and 15kw from this'....and then said he has a fast car. Im always skeptical of people who claim they made power gains.

But in reality - all im saying is that my car seems a little faster than when it was stock.

[bennjamin]

But in reality - all im saying is that my car seems a little faster than when it was stock.

:thumbsup:

[fried]

cool mike!

yeah, i wasnt having a go, cos i know u mentioned that

1) u werent making calls on power
2) the extra noise in the intake could not have been assumed to be power vs noise

etc.

i was just curious about the mystical powers of this intake lol - esp on an ek4 with intake and catback vs a dc2 with catback.

again, in all situations, theres no absolutes, and anyone could end up pulling on the other car - but again in my experience, a stock dc2 (+ muffler only) vs an ek4 with j's racing intake, trust catback, lightweight race rims, cam timing adjustment etc, would only ever end with the dc2 pulling away.

but eitherway, lol - great write up, and info on ur experiences !!!

[fusion_VTi]

nice write up mate, intake mods definately sound mad when vtec kicks in :D

[[stealth]]

u mustve got lucky... coz a honda with just cai cannot beat a dc2 or s2k or s14 lol... blame the drivers.. as for power gains.. a 2-4kW gain.. is still quiet wishful..

but nice mod tho!

:)

[fried]

he only mentioned that he beat his friends dc2 dude. the s2k adn s14 were just examples of his car pulling a little harder than before, hence "scarying" theose drivings.

:wave:

[VTEC16]

']u mustve got lucky... coz a honda with just cai cannot beat a dc2 or s2k or s14 lol... blame the drivers.. as for power gains.. a 2-4kW gain.. is still quiet wishful..

but nice mod tho!

:)I have exhuast aswell....and as said above (thanks fried)- my car is not faster than any turbo silvia nor an S2K... 2-4kW would be great - but not unacheivable in some parts of the power curve. Not that im saying i got that much.