What's better than WD40?

[kraiye]

My can of W is just about empty! I've seen a few threads mentioning products better than WD40 but I can't seem to find them again.

What do you guys recommend instead of WD40 or is it just as good as any other loosener/water disperser?


[update of list] (in no particular order):
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Inox
Lanox
Wurth Rostoff
Penetron
RP7
PB Blaster
CRC 5.56
Ranex Rustbuster,
Chemsearch "Yield"

and possibly preceed them with brakleen (or maybe carby cleaner?) to clean gunk from dirty bolts/threads

[Type S Tony]

NOTHING is better that WD-40 ;-)

[tseesinngwailo]

Wd-41 ?

[Type S Tony]

Try silicoln spray, not saying its better but meh!

[bennjamin]

silicon spray is for a very different application !

WD40 , or any "water dispersant" is used generally for unlocking rust or crud and loosening parts. You can get cheap stuff "EXPORT BRAND" from supercheap for about $2 a can. Ive got one with good use for a many a DIY job for the last half a year. Same shit as WD40 but cheaper.

[e240]

kerosene...thats exactly what WD40 is.

[Type S Tony]

I thought WD-40 was based on Fish oil?

[JohnL]

I don't think it's kero, but it's not much thicker. It is a fairly good penetrating oil and it does displace water, but it's not much good as a rust preventative because it doesn't take long to evaporate. It can't be fish-oil based because fish-oil is an excellent rust preventative that doesn't dry off, neither of which can be said about WD 40.

Parts sprayed with WD 40 start to rust after a while, just how long depending on how hot and dry it is. I use RP7 and Inox, and prefer them both to WD 40 for everything that WD 40 is supposed to be good for.

[omgzilla]

CRC 5-56 FTMFW! Toolkit in a can lol
http://www.crcindustries.com.au/catalogue.nsf/6a8ab9ca80cc8cc0ca2568c400016791/0114c25bd8416696ca2569ad0018e0e1/BRND_productImage/0.6448?OpenElement&FieldElemFormat=jpg

Inox silicone spray and lithium are good for lubricating etc.

[SuperSteve]

P e n e t r o n ! ! !

[EG30]

Wurth Rost off much better than WD40, need to source thru workshops/mechanics.

I much prefer Inox over WD40 for off the shelf sprays.

[DLO01]

INOX is better than WD40. Got that tip off the friendly neighbours. :thumbsup:

[nEUROleptic]

we use Chemsearch "Yield" at work. I would say its the best stuff ever invented for rusted bolts/nuts etc. For industrial use but i understand it could be available at places like Blackwoods. From what I've heard rrp is around $15 a can,expensive but worth it

[SuiJin]

man power + breakbar.

[B18cEG]

INOX is much better than wd40, everyone knows wd40 and think its the best because its the most popular, INOX is literaly the best!!!!!

[T-onedc2]

man power + breakbar.
= twisted bolt lol

Preventative maintenance is better than WD40, although difficult to carry out

Where can I source INOX?

[JasonGilholme]

WD40 is pretty weak once you've been in the DIY circle for a while.

its good but i don't use it that often anymore. I use penetrene, or INOX. I also throw some brakleen on for good measure before hand to remove any unwanted dirt/greese/oil etc.

[sik-vic]

Wurth Rostoff FTW, better than anything on the market for sure

[DLO01]

Where can I source INOX?

Supa Cheap. :thumbsup:

[T-onedc2]

Supa Cheap. :thumbsup:
Thanking you!

[kraiye]

Thanks! You guys are bloody legends :) I knew I'd heard these on here before.


Wurth Rostoff FTW, better than anything on the market for sure

sweet but is it "on" the market in the first place ?
like eg30 suggested, does it need to be sourced through mechs / workshops?

[kraiye]

So we have (in no particular order):

Inox
Wurth Rostoff
Penetron
RP7
PB Blaster
CRC 5.56
Chemsearch "Yield"

and possibly preceed them with brakleen (or maybe carby cleaner?) to clean dirty bolts/threads

[omgzilla]

Wurth Rostoff FTW, better than anything on the market for sure

+1 for Wurth Rost-Off for exhaust bolts etc :thumbsup:

Pretty much anything made by Wurth is awesome gear. Their Brake cleaner owns!

Many-a-time i've copped that stuff in the eye at work when cleaning down an engine, it gets in the webbing and it spits back at you. Blindness occurs!

Pretty much if you have the following 3x items you're set:

CRC 5-56 or Inox - General cleaning, water dispersing etc.
Wurth Rost-off or any sort of Penetrant - For hard to budge/exhaust bolts.
Any decent lubricant (Inox Silicone etc) - For lubricating.

With lubricants its a method of using the right lube to suit the application.

Sticky window guides etc - dry lube / PTFE (dry and non-residual so no dust sticks to it)
Hinges/seat rails/steering columns/pedal assembly squeaks etc - Lithium grease or paraffin wax (thick and long lasting).

[kraiye]

yeah... sounds fantastic.


lol

[nd55]

> NOTHING is better that WD-40

Duct tape and cable ties.



Nick, not being helpful.

[EK1.6LCIV]

WD-40 have u seen the site dedicated to its 'uses' :D

http://www.wd40.com/uses-tips/category/other/

[aaronng]

I've used WD40, RP7, CRC 5.56 and Inox. I use Inox exclusively now.

[dsp26]

kraiye: lol mate carby/tb cleaner is not an option for any lubricating needs. that thing is so strong it WILL dissolve plastics/sealants/rubber

good thread though.. will try that INOX too.. never seen/heard of it...

[aaronng]

good thread though.. will try that INOX too.. never seen/heard of it...
They sell it at Autobarn, Repco and Supercheapauto as well I think.

You can get it in aerosol can form, or in pump bottle form from Jaycar. Pump bottle is convenient if you want to soak a part in Inox. Inox is great for spraying over your car's battery terminals after you have cleaned it off. No corrosion and no mess unlike grease.

[aaronng]

sweet but is it "on" the market in the first place ?
like eg30 suggested, does it need to be sourced through mechs / workshops?
Yeah, they usually only sell to workshops, but I think you can get Repco to order it in for you since they are considered a workshop. Wurth hand cleaner is the best!

[kraiye]

kraiye: lol mate carby/tb cleaner is not an option for any lubricating needs. that thing is so strong it WILL dissolve plastics/sealants/rubber

good thread though.. will try that INOX too.. never seen/heard of it...

yeah i know. not to be used as a lubricant but rather to clean the gunk/crap of dirty threads first. maybe a should clarify that bit :thumbsup:


btw, i'm totally sold on INOX and Rustoff (just gotta find some)

[dsp26]

^ditto..

thanks aaronng for the pump suggestion.. that would actually be more useful for me.

good thread kraiye:thumbsup:

[aaronng]

^ditto..

thanks aaronng for the pump suggestion.. that would actually be more useful for me.

good thread kraiye:thumbsup:

I have both, but prefer aerosol since I can use the extension tube. But with the pump bottle (like a hair spray pump), I can undo the head and pour the inox out into a small container to soak items.

[kraiye]

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good thread though.. will try that INOX too.. never seen/heard of it...


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good thread kraiye:thumbsup:

rep me bitches!! :p
j/k

got my INOX... just need something to undo now
would like to have two bolts exactly the same and compare products. might go grab some nuts n bolts and leave em outside for a while ;)

[chunky]

wdf silicon spray
petrol isnt bad

[outatime]

lithium grease

[EGJOE]

Inox has a big brother lanox I'm yet to try lanox but I'm told its much better then inox.
http://www.inox-mx3.com/inox.htm
I use inox as a protectant on rubber, seals, bushes, hoses......aplications are endless. The trick to using it to loosen stubborn bolts and nuts is to give it time to pemtrate.
Works great on my tappet cover makes it look like new.:thumbsup:

EGJOE:cool:

[aaronng]

I was told that Inox can damage rubber.

[B18cEG]

I know this is kind of unrelated but i had some rusty gearbox parts that have been left out for a while, went to bunnings and got a bottle on Ranex Rustbuster, that shit is fkn good, the best i have used by far, its also awesome on exhaust bolts, just unscrew the lid and replace with a squirter handle/lid and spray it all over wat u want

[EGJOE]

I was told that Inox can damage rubber.

I've never had any trouble with inox on rubber. I know many wrokshops that spray it on suspension bushes. From what iv'e seen no damage so far.
I had a look on inox site it says "may have some effect on natural rubber with continual use" plastics are ok. I think none of the automotive rubber bits on our hondas are natural rubber they more like a pvc material, correct me if I'm wrong.

EGJOE:)

[aaronng]

I've never had any trouble with inox on rubber. I know many wrokshops that spray it on suspension bushes. From what iv'e seen no damage so far.
I had a look on inox site it says "may have some effect on natural rubber with continual use" plastics are ok. I think none of the automotive rubber bits on our hondas are natural rubber they more like a pvc material, correct me if I'm wrong.

EGJOE:)

Ah, I see. That means Inox has another advantage over WD40, CRC5.56 and RP7. hehehehe

[phwoaaa]

i like the smell of wd40 :)
dont like smell of rostoff..

thats probably why i only use wd40 at work :P

[JohnL]

i like the smell of wd40 :)
dont like smell of rostoff..

thats probably why i only use wd40 at work :P

Sounds like addiction to me, stop sniffing that stuff!

[JohnL]

petrol isnt bad

It is bad if it comes into contact with your skin, if you breathe the fumes, or it catches fire.

Seriously, you want to avoid contact with petrol, especially unleaded because about half of the volume is not really petrol at all but other very heavy duty aromatic chemicals (much more so than in leaded fuel), very many of which are grade A carcinogens (won't kill you tommorrow, but might in 20 years).

It's also a very good idea to as far as possible avoid breathing the exhaust fumes, especially if the exhaust is not fitted with a cat converter (as with small engines fitted to mowers, brush cutters, chain saws etc...).

[trism]

wdf silicon spray
petrol isnt bad

lol at another misinformed childs post from chunky

[JohnL]

I wasn't having a go at chunky, just pointing out that petrol is very poisonous, and in some ways much more poisonous in these days of unleaded formulations than it was in the 'good old days' of leaded fuels. A problem is that it's not percieved as being particularly poisonous because it's toxic affects can be a long term time bomb rather than having an immediate affect.

One of the differences between lead as a poison and the various 'enes' etc found in high quantities in unleaded, is that lead poisoning has a relatively immediate affect on victims, but poisoning with carcinogens may take many years to cause pathology.

Lead poisoning is bad and it's good to not be breathing it with exhaust fumes, but with the introduction of unleaded fuel, to a significant degree we've just swapped one source of poison for another (with the lead alternative chemicals used to raise the octane rating).

These chemicals are readily absorbed through the skin from contact, and by inhalation of the fumes (most of these chemicals are by nature highly volatile, meaning they evaporate readily, and most of the petrol fumes are made up from the most dangerous components of the fuel). Hold your breath when filling up your tank...

[kraiye]

but it smells so yummy!!
;)

[V73C]

P e n e t r o n ! ! !

penetron or penetrene ?
we use penetrene at work to loosen the impossible, apparently its a really really thin substance, and can seep into almost any spots of a rusted bolt and nut.
i guess its true, cos it doesnt seem to want to spray out of the bottle, just runs out the threads due to being so thin.