What is kpro?

[aimen]

Hi guys does anyone know what kpro is?

Cheers....

[DLO01]

As in Hondata?
http://www.hondata.com/kpro.html

[aimen]

Yes correct what does it do?

Is there a massive difference in gains?

[DLO01]

That really depends on a number of factors and what you class as massive. I figure your talking a stock motor? In the right hands (tuner) you'll see good gains.

[45SET]

What is Hondata - Read the link
Massive gains - Yes (But like Dean said, depends what you think is massive).
Is it worth the money - Yes!

It is one of those mods that brings all the other mods you've done (Intake, Exhaust, headers) together. It gives you more power where you need it (Down low) and even more where you didn't think it was possible (Above 5500RPM).

If you plan on keeping the car, and have the extra 2k (new) for the ECU, and the extra $800 for the tune (If you don't tune it yourself) then do it. I've had my K-Pro in my car for around 6 months (Tuned by Adrian from Toda), and think that it was probably one of the best mods I've done to the car.

[WATAJK]

Good to see someone asking this before me :)
Always wanted to know....
Think after the headers/wheels and coils then it must be time for the ECU then..
good to see some light on this.
Thanks guys

[r3ckless]

Yeah, my next performanece mod is kpro.

i still want a short shifter, and a shitty front lip.. i wanna DIY on.

rims

[jj17]

best mod only if u can afford it. It maximises the gain you can get from your other mods like your standard I/H/E. Otherwise if u dont have atleast those standard bolt on mods dont bother wasting money on a kpro and a tune.

Probably advise you to get RBC intake manifold and jdm throttle body along with the kpro too. Save $ on retuning.

[45SET]

The gains of k-pro on a stock car are massive as well.

[45SET]

Yeah, my next performanece mod is kpro.

i still want a short shifter, and a shitty front lip.. i wanna DIY on.

rims

Look into what you need to do to get a K-Pro working on a Type S (K20z). I think you'll need to buy a few extra bits & peices...

[crashprash]

if u have a type s, its cheaper to get a haltech platinum pro plugin for dc5.. ask toda au for more details

[m0nty ITR]

My car dyno'd stock at 114kw atw to 126kw atw with Toda headers, Fujitsubo Power Getter and Injen CAI to 142kw atw with K Pro and tune. The K Pro and tune cost less than the other mods did. But in the same breath, it's those combinations working together that get the better result. Just doing the ECU and tune wouldn't net 20kw atw on it's own.

[Philip Lee]

What is Hondata - Read the link
Massive gains - Yes (But like Dean said, depends what you think is massive).
Is it worth the money - Yes!

It is one of those mods that brings all the other mods you've done (Intake, Exhaust, headers) together. It gives you more power where you need it (Down low) and even more where you didn't think it was possible (Above 5500RPM).

If you plan on keeping the car, and have the extra 2k (new) for the ECU, and the extra $800 for the tune (If you don't tune it yourself) then do it. I've had my K-Pro in my car for around 6 months (Tuned by Adrian from Toda), and think that it was probably one of the best mods I've done to the car.

robi, can u take me for a ride next Monday night (JDMST meet). i am thinking about a Kpro too.

i have intake and cat back. not planning to get a header. i wonder how much diff with a header make on a EP3.

hehe

[45SET]

robi, can u take me for a ride next Monday night (JDMST meet). i am thinking about a Kpro too.

i have intake and cat back. not planning to get a header. i wonder how much diff with a header make on a EP3.

hehe

Sure... You'll only experiance reving to 3k, and what ever the speed limit is (So either 50 or 60km/h) though... As I'm not a hoon...

:p

[CRXDEL501]

so 45SET, shouldnt you be working :P haha

[45SET]

so 45SET, shouldnt you be working :P haha

Could say the same for you "Mr Busy"

[Philip Lee]

Sure... You'll only experiance reving to 3k, and what ever the speed limit is (So either 50 or 60km/h) though... As I'm not a hoon...

:p

lol. u'll hit vtec in 1st within the speed limit so it should be enough for me hahaa

[zco]

keep in mind that the ECU brings out the best of your modifications.. i see it as tweaking your mods that you have already.. and bringing out more power out of them..
without mods, if you just buy an ECU, you wont have much to "tune"

[jj17]

The gains of k-pro on a stock car are massive as well.

what you say is true, but is it worth buying a kpro on a stock car then constantly having to retune with every future modifications. poor ppl like me cant afford to do so =[


keep in mind that the ECU brings out the best of your modifications.. i see it as tweaking your mods that you have already.. and bringing out more power out of them..
without mods, if you just buy an ECU, you wont have much to "tune"

agreed.

[nickasse]

i don't mean to steal the thread, but something i've always been curious about with aftermarket ecu's is:
if i have a completely stock motor, with no mods at all, can the car be tuned to put out more power than factory?

[nickasse]

keep in mind that the ECU brings out the best of your modifications.. i see it as tweaking your mods that you have already.. and bringing out more power out of them..
without mods, if you just buy an ECU, you wont have much to "tune"

that's what i thought but i've heard otherwise....changing vtec x-over and stuff on a stock motor....i was under the impression that honda would have given the best tune possible with the car as it was, but i've heard otherwise.

[DLO01]

i don't mean to steal the thread, but something i've always been curious about with aftermarket ecu's is:
if i have a completely stock motor, with no mods at all, can the car be tuned to put out more power than factory?

Absolutly! An engine is a little on the rich side from factory. Hondas use a Map sensor not Air flow sensor. This is why intake and exhaust mods work so well on a stock motor, as it sees the same pressure/same fuel, but your actually getting better flow and therefore more air in. This is your 'window' that can be tuned for.

[nickasse]

thanks man :)

[45SET]

what you say is true, but is it worth buying a kpro on a stock car then constantly having to retune with every future modifications. poor ppl like me cant afford to do so =[


Step 1: Buy K-Pro
Step 2: Fit k-pro and have it tuned
Step 3: Buy your intake, exhaust, headers, intake manifold and throttle body and let them sit in all there shinny JDM glory in a pre-selected room of your house
Step 4: Have parts fitted
Step 5: Get car re-tuned
Step 6: Skidz... either on the street or in your pants :p

I did the intake and exhaust mods before I got my k-pro... but putting k-pro on a stock motor is still worth the money.

[jj17]

Step 1: Buy K-Pro
Step 2: Fit k-pro and have it tuned
Step 3: Buy your intake, exhaust, headers, intake manifold and throttle body and let them sit in all there shinny JDM glory in a pre-selected room of your house
Step 4: Have parts fitted
Step 5: Get car re-tuned
Step 6: Skidz... either on the street or in your pants :p

I did the intake and exhaust mods before I got my k-pro... but putting k-pro on a stock motor is still worth the money.

ahahah yea, but the problem is step 3. i work for my own parts and everything + im a full time student so its gonna take forever.

[DLO01]

So don't mod cars then.

[m0nty ITR]

ahahah yea, but the problem is step 3. i work for my own parts and everything + im a full time student so its gonna take forever.

We all work for our own parts. No one is making you mod cars. Don't make it sound like it's a chore.

[jj17]

So don't mod cars then.


We all work for our own parts. No one is making you mod cars. Don't make it sound like it's a chore.

rofl ok guys. its not a chore, I simply pointed out that his steps cant be applied to everyone and used myself as an example.
I was just implying that not everyone has rich parents to provide all their fundings and/or is 40 years old and has a full time job. Pretty sure a majority of the people on this forum is either on their P's and is a uni student whom has limited funds to spend on their cars. why take the route that requires you to double spend on something that you can do once and do it right?

anyways, i never said 45set was wrong and im pretty sure he isnt offended to anything i said. it was a discussion but i guess u guys like to take this "car modding" business seriously

[45SET]

None offence taken geek (JJ17).

I do work full time... but I study part time... and it is the vain of my existence!

[jj17]

so a full time student makes me a geek. but i guess it isnt as bad as the flames i was expecting from exaggerating above.

[45SET]

naa... I call EVERYONE a geek... it's what I use instead of "man" or "dude"

[M@lew]

If you want to do it once and do it right, you'll still have to follow 45SET's steps, just maybe start from step 3. Either way if you want to do things right you with a KPro you will need to get all the bolt ons, then KPro and then tune it. This will mean you'd only be tuning it once, aka saving money. If you buy a KPro for a stock car, you will need to retune it to get the most out of it pretty much every time you add something to the car.

[jj17]

If you want to do it once and do it right, you'll still have to follow 45SET's steps, just maybe start from step 3. Either way if you want to do things right you with a KPro you will need to get all the bolt ons, then KPro and then tune it. This will mean you'd only be tuning it once, aka saving money. If you buy a KPro for a stock car, you will need to retune it to get the most out of it pretty much every time you add something to the car.

exactly what i said