Stud patter and offset of Jazz

[Wind86]

Does anyone knows the offset and stud pattern of Jazz?

My friend wants to buy a set of rims off from a lancer, anyone knows whether they would fit ?

Thanks a lot !!! Cheers :)

[rokkuchan]

if it's of a lancer, it would fit perfect. My bro got a lancer, we swap mags to use all the time.

as for stud pat is 4x100 offset is 38+?? i think...can't remember.

[Wind86]

That will do .... thanks a lot :)

[Jus-10]

The offset will vary depending on the size of the rim....

Anything from a +35 to a +42 can work with a 7inch rim. I have +42 with 16x7s and they are perfect

[terris08]

Hi, Jus-10 !!
I'm also thinking to change my stock wheels but just want to find out how you know that the offsets from 35 to 42 work perfectly. Is it from experience or from magazine research or by other means?? Not that I doubt your expertise but just want to be sure.
If I change from the VTi 14'' stock wheels to 15'', will it upset the ABS and any other systems? Thanks!

[Jus-10]

Just check out all the Jap wheel sites and they will often recommend which offset (when you look at individual rims) will fit on each car.

It's also from a bit of experience. I had Buddy Club P1s (16x7) with a +35 offset and they filled the guards well. You may have some slight issues with some rubbing on the inner guard with this offset, but nothing too bad.

I have +42 at the moment on 16x7 Gram Lights and they fit with no rubbing at all. I haven't had to do and guard rolling or anything at all...the car is also lowered about 2.5-3 inches.

You will find "recommended" sizes on Jap sites ranging from +33 to +43 but they would be pushing the limits.

If you go 15x7 with a +42 offset with 195/50 tyres you should have absolutely no issues with fitment.

Different/Bigger wheels won't upset the ABS or anything. Honda don't recommend the fitment of larger rims on the VTi (when does any dealer really advise it?) as they say there could be issues with the electric steering, but I am yet to hear of any actual cases anywhere in the world. With the above 15" setup you will have no rubbing on full lock. My theory is that if you aim for light weight wheels (try and get something at least similiar in weight to the factory wheels or lighter) you won't have any issues as you won't be placing any extra strain on the steering system if you get what I mean.

Hope that helps.

J

[FIT]

16x6.5 what offset should this be? and what tyres size is suitable?

[spoon fit]

+32, +35, +38

[FIT]

Hmm might get +38, concept 5 16x6.5 4x100

[spoon fit]

which one?

[Jus-10]

I run a 195/45 16 on my 16x7 so you could do that, or you could run a 205/40 16 no probs.

[^CarBoy^]

Jus-10: so with your Gram Lights 16x7 +42 offset using 195/45 16 tyres... my question is did you get a hard time getting tyres? 195/45/16 is abit out of the ordinary. Usually at Big O Tyres or Ozzy Tyres they usually give you 205/40/16 or 205/45/16. Are the 195/45/16 more expensive than normal?

oh and if you don't mind me asking... where did you order your Gram Lights?

[Fizz]

can anyone tell me the formula on how to calculate overall wheel diameter? :confused:

[golfphunk]

what tyres would suit 15x6.5?

i'm taking a guess 205/50? or 205/45?

[Jus-10]

15x6.5 = 195/50

16x7 = 195/45

17x7 = 205/40

[cumi_cumi]

how about 18"x8 with offset 35? will it fit well?

[petrovski]

how about 18"x8 with offset 35? will it fit well?

NO. Ive got 18x7's on my car and they scrub a little.

With that offset and that width you will be scrubbing a lot.

Pete :)

[Fizz]

tried getting a set of 16" last weekend, but the rims wouldn't fit. at first the guy tried 16x6.5(+40) and it scraped the inner edges of front calipers. then we tried 16x7(+38) and it was sticking out by a mile! any recommendations guys? :confused:

im thinking of trying 16x7(+40) and hope this time it fits perfectly.

[Zimp13]

tried getting a set of 16" last weekend, but the rims wouldn't fit. at first the guy tried 16x6.5(+40) and it scraped the inner edges of front calipers. then we tried 16x7(+38) and it was sticking out by a mile! any recommendations guys? :confused:

im thinking of trying 16x7(+40) and hope this time it fits perfectly.

+40 is the right offset... its normal to scrap the front caliper cos for vtec jazz the brake hub is smaller than the i-dsi one (unless for some rims design wont scrap)... just put a spacer... that will solve the problem....

[Fizz]

so 16x6.5(+40) with a spacer would do the trick? how wide should the spacer be then?

[Zimp13]

so 16x6.5(+40) with a spacer would do the trick? how wide should the spacer be then?

5mm more than enuf.... this doesnt happen on ur car only but for most jazzes outside...

[Jus-10]

I run 16x7 with +42 offset and it fits perfectly

[STTICH]

jus.. wth ur p1s before..wat offset were those?

[Jus-10]

mmm I think they were +35...pretty crazy offset but they filled the guards well...

Looked awesome on the car...if only I could have driven it!!!

[Fizz]

5mm more than enuf.... this doesnt happen on ur car only but for most jazzes outside...

tried again with the spacers yesterday. with the 3mm it still rubs, with the 5mm it clears the calipers but wheel sticks out abit. and 5mm spacer reduces the amount of thread on the wheel studs, plus its illegal to use them. anyway i guess i'll have to try out a different brand wheel...

[Fizz]

forgot to mention that the wheel shop gave me the option of machining part of the calipers so that it clears the wheels. would it be advisible to do so? im actually reluctant to machine the calipers coz it might weaken the whole thing.

[jazzydave]

any idea if 15" +45 offset would fit on the jazz?

[STTICH]

any idea if 15" +45 offset would fit on the jazz?


yes it should fit perfectly.

but it does depend on the design of the wheels as well.

[jazzydave]

yeh, the wheels are
Enkei 15inch 4 x100 rims JDM DC2R Style, so should fit?

[STTICH]

yeh, the wheels are
Enkei 15inch 4 x100 rims JDM DC2R Style, so should fit?


b aware jdm dc2r rims are 4x114.3

if its copy/replica 4x100, yea it should fit.

[^CarBoy^]

+45 offset should be ok... but it really depends on the design of the spokes of the rims. But to be on the safe side buy yourself a pair of 3mm spacers. I had a set of sprint hart 15x6.5 +45 offset and it hit the calipers and i needed 3mm spacers.

i bought Buddyclub Racing II+ instead. 15x7 +35 offset and it fits perfect.. no spacers required.

[[stealth]]

can you go wider with 7.5"? and 215 tyres? (+40offset)

[AmateurJazz]

I've searched all over the forum and I think this is the right place to post - sorry if it is a repost.

I've just bought buddy club 15" x 6.5 +42 and the guy at bob jane tells me that the rims are touching the caliper - something I thought would never happen as I heard any rims with offset 38-42 would fit. Anyone else have the same problems? I see from previous posts that if the rim was wider say 15" x 7 it wouldnt be a problem...

[magii]

i have the same problem, since using spacers is illegal would sanding down the capliper work?

[^CarBoy^]

My wheel is 15x7 +35 offset. +35 is the best offset for 15" and 16" rims.

I had a Sprint Hart CPF-G 15x6.5 +45 offset and i needed 3mm spacers at the front. I sold it and bought myself a proper one.. Buddyclub P1 Racing II+ in 15x7 +35 no problems with callipers or rubbing... perfect rims for the Jazz.

regarding sanding the caliper... i would suggest to think about that aswell. Sometime you can make the caliper week cause the actual metal becomes thin when you sand it down... I rather you get a 3mm spacer than getting your calipers sanded.

If you going to use spacers dont go over 3mm.

[AmateurJazz]

yeah but unfortunately these matt black rims require at least 5mm - so no go.

I think it depends on the width of the rims too. A 6.5" rim with +42 offset will not fit whereas a 7" rim width with the same offset will.

[kaikor]

as i mentioned elsewhere, mine 15X6.5 offset+38 are perfect, but it all depends on the wheel's spoke design, never ever buy any wheels w/o fitting them on first, making sure everything cleared, that's my best advise ...

[[R]]

can anyone confirm... 17x7.5 45offset will fit?

[STTICH]

beej

shud have no problems at the rear, minimal scrapage it there's any, but i doubt it wth +45.

for the front, really need to ask somone who had experience wth the same wheels to b certain. there're too many cases wth the jazz, with perfect offsets, the wheels might still scrape the front calipers.

[[R]]

lol just have to take the gamble hey.. hehehe

[UBH320]

Beej, you'd probably will scrap the inner guard in rear if you have 4 people in the car...
I had my 17x7.5 +40 or +42 offset with 215/40 tyres man it was a nightmare...

Try it first Beej, you can always sell it later :D hahaha

[[R]]

hahahaha... i concur..

ill just order them later.. if they fit.. my gain! lol

if not.. a civic/integra lover will want them! hehehe

[vtec-NA.th]

i'm planning to get 16" volk TE37's.

i'm also going to be installing buddyclub n+ coilovers.

which offset etc. should i be using?

i have an 07 vti-s

[BusterSonic12]

will the dc5 type r rims fit on the jazz ok?

[noodleman27]

no dc5 is 5 stud, jazz is 4

[BusterSonic12]

damn.. alright thanks for that

[noodleman27]

i'm planning to get 16" volk TE37's.

i'm also going to be installing buddyclub n+ coilovers.

which offset etc. should i be using?

i have an 07 vti-s

what size tyres?

16X7 lowered you should get 42 offset....or you'll haev to roll your guards

[lite]

Would there be any issues with Advan RG's 16x7 +40 w/ 205/50 on a facelift model Jazz?

[MUGENJ]

anyone know why 17x7 4x100 for a jazz with 4 people in the car.. when going over a tram rail track it scrap the inner rear?

i thought that spec is perfect on a jazz.. can it be solve by removing any parts of the inner rear?

[xqwzit]

better specify offset, which is +42 :)
say thanks :P

[MUGENJ]

haha.. cheers xqwzit!

[Dreams]

can be solved by grating/cut away the excess tip of the bumper mounting. you can see it clearly.

[noodleman27]

17x7 +40 will rub, you will need to roll rear guard, then trim some of the rear bumper

im running 16X7 +42 with rear guard rolled and just removed the rear bumper screw and it rubs alittle bit over humps, and i've got stiff susspension too

[Dreams]

what tyres are you running, 40s offset i would think rolling your guard is not neccesary.

[noodleman27]

im running 205/45/16

without passengers it wont rub...but with 4 passengers and stock soft suspension without rolling the guards it will rub

[MUGENJ]

can someone post some pictures of their cars being trim or cut off the excess bit of the inner rear.. so that i can see how much i should remove?

cheers!

[lite]

Would there be any issues with Advan RG's 16x7 +40 w/ 205/50 on a facelift model Jazz?

lol quoting self. Anyone know?

[noodleman27]

if you read my post...i said im running 16X7 +42 lowered running on 205/45/16 and it rubs abit with rolled guard .....doesnt that answer your question already?

[Dreams]

can someone post some pictures of their cars being trim or cut off the excess bit of the inner rear.. so that i can see how much i should remove?

cheers!

not that i dont want too, but i have to take off my wheels just for that. cbf :eek:, later when i change wheels or sth, ill take a quick snap.:thumbsup:

...

those 205/50 on a 7" 40+ will jsut make it worst. people with silly size tyres is not just right.

[gd1_nz]

sorry to bring up an old thread but i just got a set of 16" x 7 SSR Integral with an offset of 32. Anyone ran their jazz on wheels with such low offset ? thanks btw..my car is on stock suspension.

[Dreams]

yes, i have ran 7" off 28+. id suggest you get 205/45/16 or 195/50/16, and you will scrape as mentioned above, front no problem.

[kongfu]

yes, i have ran 7" off 28+. id suggest you get 205/45/16 or 195/50/16, and you will scrape as mentioned above, front no problem.

195 no rub issue

[kelvinthai]

15 x 6.5 +38

Can this fit on jazz vtis? i am on 15 x 6.5 +42 now... minor rub.. will they be the same?

Should i go 195/55/15 or 195/50/15 or 205/50/15?

I personally feel like going 205.. but its abit expensive... 195/55/15 is on sale now.

[kongfu]

15 x 6.5 +38

Can this fit on jazz vtis? i am on 15 x 6.5 +42 now... minor rub.. will they be the same?

Should i go 195/55/15 or 195/50/15 or 205/50/15?

I personally feel like going 205.. but its abit expensive... 195/55/15 is on sale now.

stick with 195 Kelvin. check out hyper Rev lots of tunning factory recommend 195/50/15 tyres as they are the most efficient for jazz.

+38 will be fine even it will clear spoon calipers.

[kelvinthai]

yar i heard about fuel efficient and also speedo problem.. Thanks for the headup.. what about 195/55/15? its on sale.. save about $20 each.. thats abit if u put them all together.

[kongfu]

yar i heard about fuel efficient and also speedo problem.. Thanks for the headup.. what about 195/55/15? its on sale.. save about $20 each.. thats abit if u put them all together.

55 is a bit high sidewall. 50 is better according to tunning magazine review.

[tedh1951]

195/50ZR/15s rub with 4 up - stock offset +, stock suspenders.

[kongfu]

195/50ZR/15s rub with 4 up - stock offset +, stock suspenders.

195/50/15 rubs?

no comment about your statement.

[tedh1951]

195/50/15 rubs?

no comment about your statement.

195/50ZR/15s rub with 4 up - stock offset +, stock suspenders

OooooH, did I write that out loud? :eek:

[kongfu]

195/50ZR/15s rub with 4 up - stock offset +, stock suspenders

OooooH, did I write that out loud? :eek:

195/50/15 wont rub at all. do more rearch you will find out:cool:

[tedh1951]

195/50/15 wont rub at all. do more rearch you will find out:cool:

Well then, I not sure what that funny rubbing/scaping noise is when I have four up and I hit a speed bump - it doesn't occur any other time, and certainly didn't happen with the stock VTI-s mags in place. Nah, I've had another look - slight polish marks on both tyres and guards - must be fairies.

[Dreams]

its minor scraping. tyres does hit the stupid excess plastic on the bumper mounting above the tyres where the bumper meets the body. let them tyres grind them out. it'll soon be gone.

6.5J 38+ is super deep flush hehehe.

[kongfu]

its minor scraping. tyres does hit the stupid excess plastic on the bumper mounting above the tyres where the bumper meets the body. let them tyres grind them out. it'll soon be gone.

6.5J 38+ is super deep flush hehehe.

no issue with mine:cool:

[Dreams]

different brand of tyres do vary in their shapes. some blocky square on the edges some are rounder. if ya know what i mean.

[gd1_nz]

I was just wondering whether a set of 16' x 7 Work emotions with an offset of +44 will fit??? OR will it hit the calipers??

[kongfu]

I was just wondering whether a set of 16' x 7 Work emotions with an offset of +44 will fit??? OR will it hit the calipers??

+44 wont fit you need smaller offset like +35, +38,+42

[johno2004]

I have a 185/50/15 potenza tyres on my stock jazz 05 vtis.

Would P1 SF challenge rim size be fine on these offset?

15x6.5 +35 4x100
15x6.5 +42 4x100

[Dreams]

I have a 185/50/15 potenza tyres on my stock jazz 05 vtis.

Would P1 SF challenge rim size be fine on these offset?

15x6.5 +35 4x100
15x6.5 +42 4x100

u mean 185/55/15. yea it will fit fine on your new rims.

[GTI-Jazz]

.....

[longluncher]

Mags
Do you know if I can fit 16 X 7 mags with 205/45ZR 16 tyres to my 2004 Jazz, They are 4 studs with a distance of 110mm diagonally apart?

[evan_p]

Sorry a noob question :) Just got my jazz 2009 on jan. I'm planning to do a rim and wheel upgrade next year. The problem is I'm new to these kind of stuffs. I was thinking of making my jazz's wheels look full and fat without having to lower the suspension. Which wheel size you guys recommends? 17" or 16"? i'm kinda confused with offset since i don't know the ideal size that fit to my jazz without scraping it.

Oh and btw, my stock wheel is 175/65/R15 - anyone knows the stock offset?

[integraz]

Since this has been bumped up thread.

What's the most aggresive fitment on the GE Jazz you have seen?

I've got some 14x7 +12

[ss-rotel]

you can run 2inchs bigger then the biggest rim offered for you car. So a GD1/3 GL or a VTi can ran, max 16in, were my VTiS an run 17's. You also can't let them, legally, run more then an inch +/- the rolling diameter, or have them sit outside the bodywork overhang.

i'm running 15x7 Enkei's with a +40 offset and a set of 17x7's with a +38 offset.
I have run 195/55/R15 G3's and 195/50/R15's on the enkei's. That "odd" size tyre gave me a slightly higher, but still legal rolling diameter, giving me a lower RPM @ 100Km/H with a slight decrease in acceleration. they were also insanely responsive for a street tyre, compaired to the /50's and 2x the price.

anyway... Evan_P - you could run 17x7 +40mm offset rims and 215/45/r17's. Same max rollout as a current corolla i think.

[evan_p]

you can run 2inchs bigger then the biggest rim offered for you car. So a GD1/3 GL or a VTi can ran, max 16in, were my VTiS an run 17's. You also can't let them, legally, run more then an inch +/- the rolling diameter, or have them sit outside the bodywork overhang.

i'm running 15x7 Enkei's with a +40 offset and a set of 17x7's with a +38 offset.
I have run 195/55/R15 G3's and 195/50/R15's on the enkei's. That "odd" size tyre gave me a slightly higher, but still legal rolling diameter, giving me a lower RPM @ 100Km/H with a slight decrease in acceleration. they were also insanely responsive for a street tyre, compaired to the /50's and 2x the price.

anyway... Evan_P - you could run 17x7 +40mm offset rims and 215/45/r17's. Same max rollout as a current corolla i think.

Thanks for the reply, I thought this thread has been left out :)

Actually My Jazz is the VTi Jazz. I still see quite a gap to the fender, so i thought 17" would fit in. I'm only concerned with the offset since I don't want to do anything else other than replacing the rims and tyres. do you think +38 offset will fit and don't scrub? i've seen plenty of alternative rims on ebay, but i haven't seen one with +40 (probably i missed it cos there's too many rims over there :p).

[twing]

Oh and btw, my stock wheel is 175/65/R15 - anyone knows the stock offset?

stock offset is +55

[TypeG]

Thanks for the reply, I thought this thread has been left out :)

Actually My Jazz is the VTi Jazz. I still see quite a gap to the fender, so i thought 17" would fit in. I'm only concerned with the offset since I don't want to do anything else other than replacing the rims and tyres. do you think +38 offset will fit and don't scrub? i've seen plenty of alternative rims on ebay, but i haven't seen one with +40 (probably i missed it cos there's too many rims over there :p).

GE is different to GD I guess
38 MUST rub in hard time unless you are not going to lower it at all...

[kl85]

Hey guys I have a set of enkeis rp01 15x7 offset +45 will that fit my jazz perfectly?
Person I'm buying from said I need to put somethig in the inner centre of the rims for it to fit
On jazz is that correct? Is that spacers? Will it cost alot? And finally shld I just go to bob Jane to get it fitted? Rims comes without tyres as well. Sry for the many questions haha, I'm sucha noob

[fillit]

if you require spacers for the rims to clear the calipers then i don't recommend it, the hub is suppose to hold up the wheel not the studs, if you put spaces in there then it's the studs holding the wheels on and you may damage it also it is quite unsafe. you are better off waiting for a set of rims that has better fitment, if you find a right set you should be able to put it on without a problem, and make sure you get aftermarket wheel nuts aswell as the shape of oem ones don't hold aftermarket rims in properly.

[kl85]

So I should get a set with at least 50mm offset? I'm so confused about offset

[akusuma]

don't think its spacers. I think it's hub rings. It's recommended to have them. Should cost around $50 for a set of 4. You can get them from most of the tyre shops.
Just mention to them that you want to get the hub rings as well, your car should be xx-56.1mm (56.1 is the inner diameter for 4x100 Honda, and the outer diameter depends on what rims do you have).

[melvin]

Hey guys I have a set of enkeis rp01 15x7 offset +45 will that fit my jazz perfectly?
Person I'm buying from said I need to put somethig in the inner centre of the rims for it to fit
On jazz is that correct? Is that spacers? Will it cost alot? And finally shld I just go to bob Jane to get it fitted? Rims comes without tyres as well. Sry for the many questions haha, I'm sucha noob

if it helps i run 15x7 offset +40 and it just clears the brakes at the front.

[fitme]

how about 16x7 +42 with 195/45....will fit? no rubbing?

[ivanh]

how about 16x7 +42 with 195/45....will fit? no rubbing?

imo it'll be fine, they might rub on bumps n stuff tho. but i doubt it

[flipfire]

Im looking at Rota GT3's, will 16x7 +38 have any issues or will i need a spacer?

My Jazz is lowered by like 2.5" inch at the moment.

[fillit]

it should fit fine, what tyre profile are you running/planning to run?

[flipfire]

Will it clear the brakes? My current wheels are using spacers to clear the brakes, i dont feel safe using them (it came with the car)

I think my current tyres are 205/45/16. It scrubs when i hit a bump on a road, even worst when theres a full car.

Coilovers are on the way

[fillit]

it should definitely clear the brakes, i think the cutoff for 16x7s are +42, currently im running +40s and i'm clearing it by like 2mms.

you shouldn't be using spacers for daily runaround as the hub is suppose to hold the wheel on not the studs you are risking shedding one of them off.

i've ran 205/45/16s before and my car is lowered as well, it does rub on the rear but i try to keep rear passengers to a minimal but it gives the car a nice look as it fills the guard, if you run 205/40/16 then it won't rub (what i'm using atm) but it doesnt fill the guards and it gives a very very firm ride :(

[flipfire]

I tried the 15 & 16" Rota GT3's (+40 & +38) today and they did not clear the brakes at all. Same with 16" Track-R's (+40)

The only ones that did fit was 16" circuit 10's (+38) which cleared the brakes by a lot but it scrubs so hard on the rears. Poor new tyres, gotta roll the guards tomorrow.

[fillit]

hmm rotas may have bad offset, were these 16x7s or 16x6.5 cos i've had trouble fitting sportivo wheels on which are 16x6.5 +42 had to slot in 5mm spacers.

[flipfire]

They were all 7's. That unusual extra metal that sticks out of the caliper is what hits it. If you grind it off you can probably use more wheels.

Anyone rolled their rear guards before? I just realized nearly half of the wheel arch is the rear bumper....

[M@lew]

It is generally the design of the wheel that will determine whether or not you'll clear the brakes, although most rims should unless they're really funky design. For the GD Jazz, when I rolled my guards I found that the triangular piece of plastic that holds in the bumper screw was the cause of most of my scrubbing, so I just filed that away and the scrubbing stopped, although I fulled rolled the guards to be safe.

[flipfire]

^ which triangular piece? for the front or rear?

I rolled the rear guards today with a heat gun and mallet then cut a bit of the rear bumper, still scrubs with 2 people in the car :(

When i get my coilovers this week ill just raise it by an inch and keep it stiff. The stock suspensions are soft as....

[fitme]

205/50/16x7 +40 no rub on GE??

[flipfire]

How low?

Get smaller profiles 205/40/16 and it shouldnt rub at bumps.

[fitme]

^ stock height

[bye evo]

slightly off topic, but has anyone had problems with their CVT due to the larger wheels ?? My wife's VTI-S is in need on new tyres, and I thought it might be an opportunity to get some new rims at the same time....

[fillit]

having bigger wheels would affect the gear ratio, if you had 17" wheels you may find 1st gear might feel like 2nd etc etc. It will therefore also affect your acceleration/fuel economy and speedo. however if it's the same size as the original then it would be fine and you may even find an increase in fuel economy if the wheels are lighter :D