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CTR_EK9
25-07-2011, 05:47 PM
hey guys, does anyone know if there's peoples out there can fix the chassis and get it straight again? i've a 2000 Honda integra type r which i smashed like 2 weeks ago. my chassis on the driver side below the engine which is bent through to the engine mount and just wondering if it's expensive to get it done. anyone experience before? cheers guys

bennjamin
25-07-2011, 05:54 PM
chassis ? any damage to the chassis = stat write off and unsafe/unable to get registered/insurance.

Where to get it fixed ? Ask a good repairer....they will likely tell you the above.

mnc
25-07-2011, 09:19 PM
Need to put it on a jig and pull the chassis straight again.

Pretty pricey.

Like Ben said, Just go to any panel beater and ask them.
If your lucky, The place will have a jig and ready to go otherwise they will recommend you to a good place.

CTR_EK9
26-07-2011, 04:23 PM
thanks guys.. by the way my car is still registered at the vicroads.. so yeah

kenjz
26-07-2011, 08:12 PM
but do they know you have chassis damage? i assume you have not told them otherwise your car would be deemed unroadworthy.
guess you can keep driving until a cop pulls you over and canaries your car, or worse, your car can fall apart and get into an accident.

CTR_EK9
26-07-2011, 08:20 PM
yeah i haven't told them yet but we'll see how it goes, hopefully i can keep it on the road when i get it fix. thanks guys

babiiiiiiiiiii
27-07-2011, 12:14 AM
or i will seriously buy ur dc2r and put a jdm front on top to fix the problem :)

RSKEbaby
27-07-2011, 01:28 AM
or i will seriously buy ur dc2r and put a jdm front on top to fix the problem :)

lol jdm front doesnt have anything to do with the chassis, all it does it remove old radiator support and replace.. :/

babiiiiiiiiiii
27-07-2011, 01:46 AM
lol jdm front doesnt have anything to do with the chassis, all it does it remove old radiator support and replace.. :/


my chassis on the driver side below the engine which is bent through to the engine mount, read !!!!

obviously i mean pull a bit then put the whole new front ... depend how deep he hitted ...

grifty
27-07-2011, 07:47 AM
chassis ? any damage to the chassis = stat write off and unsafe/unable to get registered/insurance.

Where to get it fixed ? Ask a good repairer....they will likely tell you the above.

Actually most repairable write off's with front end damage have a bent chassis lol

you can either gets yours changed or repaired.

SuperJDM.
27-07-2011, 08:24 AM
my chassis on the driver side below the engine which is bent through to the engine mount, read !!!!

obviously i mean pull a bit then put the whole new front ... depend how deep he hitted ...

just pulling it doesn't solve anything...

DC2-PWR
27-07-2011, 08:52 AM
my chassis on the driver side below the engine which is bent through to the engine mount, read !!!!

obviously i mean pull a bit then put the whole new front ... depend how deep he hitted ...

You need to straighten the bent chassis first, then fit the new one, it isn't that easy.

votek
27-07-2011, 02:08 PM
:(( is this RDC2??

mocchi
27-07-2011, 02:36 PM
even pulling it might not pass rwc. drill out your rail and weld new one in.
gg. bent rail is worst nightmare -_-

Oxer
27-07-2011, 02:41 PM
ozhonda, qualified panel beaters everywhere.

bennjamin
27-07-2011, 04:03 PM
Actually most repairable write off's with front end damage have a bent chassis lol

you can either gets yours changed or repaired.

dont new rules indicate that all cars written off , are automatically stat-write offs and cannot be registered ? IE parts only.

hasto2770
27-07-2011, 04:14 PM
Can we request images of this guys problems a bent chassis doesn't always mean it's totally mangled and it can't be repaired, it isn't the best getting a bent chassis repaired but if it moved slightly a pull and tug might bring it back in line

vtecing
27-07-2011, 04:30 PM
throw it in the bin.

if you are going to do a track build on the other hand, anything can be fixed, and seeing as it is a dc2r chassis, it might even be worth it depending on cost of repairs. Anything over 1k, doing it yourself dont bother.

chargeR
27-07-2011, 04:30 PM
What's your VIN for everyone's reference?

DC2-PWR
27-07-2011, 05:39 PM
even pulling it might not pass rwc. drill out your rail and weld new one in.
gg. bent rail is worst nightmare -_-

It'll pass RWC if done by a pro,

There's pannel beaters these days that buy a 20k car from the Auction for 2k, (MASSIVE damage including bent chassis). And then selling it for 15k with ease.

Ofcourse you need to get it complienced, RWC, register it. But thats how everyone has their connections.

My advice to OP, if you really can't live without your car, fix it. If you can afford another one, sell it.

end of discussion

CTR_EK9
27-07-2011, 05:58 PM
thanks guys for the help :D i probably take it in to the chassis repair and get it fix this weekend. cheers

bennjamin
27-07-2011, 06:14 PM
It'll pass RWC if done by a pro,

There's pannel beaters these days that buy a 20k car from the Auction for 2k, (MASSIVE damage including bent chassis). And then selling it for 15k with ease.

Ofcourse you need to get it complienced, RWC, register it. But thats how everyone has their connections.

My advice to OP, if you really can't live without your car, fix it. If you can afford another one, sell it.

end of discussion


9/10 this is illegal/unsafe - and now all cars deemed written off cannot be re-registered. Only sold for parts/scrap

Lukey
27-07-2011, 06:44 PM
we had a hybrid camry taxi at work with a bent chassis, it got a whole new front chassis welded in afaik.

CTR_EK9
27-07-2011, 06:55 PM
and do you know how much was it to get it fix? thanks mate

Indie
28-07-2011, 12:02 AM
Cars like this really shouldn't be on the road. If it's wrecked, it's wrecked. It's not fair to 'repair' it and sell it on to some other poor bloke.

munkaii
29-07-2011, 08:47 AM
In nsw, all cars that are deemed write offs are now statutory write offs as Bennjamin has stated.

Before the new laws were implemented in February this year, insurance companies had two categories in which cars were written off (repairable or stat). So what you saw at auctions were that some car that were repairable were statutory write offs, vice versatile. To an insurance company, rep write offs definitely hold more value at the auction as there will always be those who repair and sell as a form of income. Technically any form of chassis damage, eg skirt rail should be deemed a write off but the implementation of the rules were shady and even the rta inspection station allowed the repair of skirt rails. What you cannot do however is chop the rail in half and weld half a rail on as it degrades the structural integrity of the car. It's either a complete new rAil or nothing.

Note these are the rules that apply to nsw so I can't speak for the interstate guys

redefine
29-07-2011, 11:52 AM
9/10 this is illegal/unsafe - and now all cars deemed written off cannot be re-registered. Only sold for parts/scrap

i thought they changed this after that hailstorm, where a whole bunch of cars were written off an unable to be registered, but the only damage was superficial panel damage/windows and the like?

mocchi
29-07-2011, 11:59 AM
i thought they changed this after that hailstorm, where a whole bunch of cars were written off an unable to be registered, but the only damage was superficial panel damage/windows and the like?

youre getting mixed up VIC and NSW laws?

jdm_b16a
29-07-2011, 12:04 PM
I've just had a quote to straighten both rails on a front-ended Mitsubishi Lancer, and I was told pricing started at $2,500 labour costs alone.

But, realistically, it's a write-off no matter how I look at it.

Peter

trism
29-07-2011, 01:15 PM
A car is only a write off after it gets reported to the insurance company. If they never know about it, its never classes as a write off.

Sent from my custard cannon like Peter North.

jdm_b16a
29-07-2011, 01:33 PM
A car is only a write off after it gets reported to the insurance company. If they never know about it, its never classes as a write off.

This is indeed correct. The car I have was not insured and therefore is not a write-off in the strictest sense (as per insurance company).

The word "write-off" is usually used as a colloquialism to mean anything that has been damaged badly, as in "My cousin came home late last night; he was a write-off" Ha Ha

Peter

WATAJK
29-07-2011, 08:46 PM
i know alot of places around my part of town in the northern suburbs that would fix this... Your accident sounds nothing compared to this Octaine Orange XR5 Turbo i saw getting fixed... it was completely and i mean COMPLETELY f*cked... the entire front and sides (both) were f*cked.. Push in, engine bay squashed...
2 weeks later... Forget it, you wouldn't be able to tell...

Would i buy it? No way... have a front end accident gg.

mocchi
29-07-2011, 08:49 PM
i know alot of places around my part of town in the northern suburbs that would fix this... Your accident sounds nothing compared to this Octaine Orange XR5 Turbo i saw getting fixed... it was completely and i mean COMPLETELY f*cked... the entire front and sides (both) were f*cked.. Push in, engine bay squashed...
2 weeks later... Forget it, you wouldn't be able to tell...

Would i buy it? No way... have a front end accident gg.

why wouldn't you buy it? you couldn't tell.

DC2-PWR
29-07-2011, 08:52 PM
i know alot of places around my part of town in the northern suburbs that would fix this... Your accident sounds nothing compared to this Octaine Orange XR5 Turbo i saw getting fixed... it was completely and i mean COMPLETELY f*cked... the entire front and sides (both) were f*cked.. Push in, engine bay squashed...
2 weeks later... Forget it, you wouldn't be able to tell...

Would i buy it? No way... have a front end accident gg.

Yeah I've seen those kinds of job aswell,

however I drove the car. Still drived fine, didn't crab on the roads, didn't have any weird noises etc.

I'll try to get some before and after pictures, you'll be amazed on the difference.

Why it got fixed and not wrecked, was mainly because the owner loved his car more than his life lol. But you get those kind of people, and they take advantage of it. I don't see any wrong in seeing those jobs done, but I just hope the pannel beater did it properly.

CTR_EK9
29-07-2011, 10:15 PM
thanks guys... i'll probably post up a pictures and show it to you guys when its finish hehehe cheers

munkaii
30-07-2011, 12:11 AM
I don't have anything against cars which have suffered extensive damage but are fixed properly. Think V8 supercars and the amount of times their cars are fixed. If they wrote off the car every time a skirt rail was bent, the sport would be broke.

bennjamin
30-07-2011, 11:18 AM
guys lets not confuse what "write off " actually means - its a financial term. Even a car rolled a thousand times , burned to a crisp CAN technically be repaired to as new status once again. Its just not financially viable to do so (worth more than X% of the cars value for example) Not based solely on safety aspect alone ....ANYTHING can be repaired !


Anyway , generally speaking - anyone that repairs a car , knowingly that it could be a write off is dodgy. This includes the repairer involved , and the person seeking the repair. Its not on and not right. It puts lives at risk and rips people off.

mocchi
30-07-2011, 11:19 AM
guys lets not confuse what "write off " actually means - its a financial term. Even a car rolled a thousand times , burned to a crisp CAN technically be repaired to as new status once again. Its just not financially viable to do so (worth more than X% of the cars value for example) Not based solely on safety aspect alone ....ANYTHING can be repaired !


Anyway , generally speaking - anyone that repairs a car , knowingly that it could be a write off is dodgy. This includes the repairer involved , and the person seeking the repair. Its not on and not right. It puts lives at risk and rips people off.

i dont quite agree, it really depends on the quality of repair done.

bennjamin
30-07-2011, 11:23 AM
i dont quite agree, it really depends on the quality of repair done.

thats just the thing - I said "generally speaking".

WATAJK
31-07-2011, 08:34 PM
why wouldn't you buy it? you couldn't tell.

a panel beater always leaves a mistake. Gotta know what to look for.
Auction jobs are always rushed

trism
31-07-2011, 08:42 PM
If youve got the time and money to completely replace the chassis rails, may as well.

One day, cars like ef/eg/ek civics are going to be rare, and collectable to people. Writing them off wont be an option.

I know itd be awesome to turn something like an ef civic from a unibody, to having a seperate chassis.

CTR_EK9
01-08-2011, 06:53 PM
Cheers guys

votek
01-08-2011, 10:03 PM
pictures?

CTR_EK9
02-08-2011, 08:26 PM
pictures?

pm me your email and i'll send it to you.