Brembo Brakes on a Honda Civic 92 EG*

[zapantalambda]

Howdy Mates. Hope everybody's doin well.

Just out of interest mates. Can I fit Brembo Brakes on my Honda civic 92 EG?

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t122/neiltagaro/civicjpg.jpg

and if it's do-able, does anyone in this forum sell those brakes on a reasonable price?

Thanks heaps.

[riruiz_88]

sure you can, though i will rip a big hole into your wallet. the best bang for buck aftermarket big brake kit i have heard of is willwood, spoon, ap racing. but even then dont think you will get anything for less than $1500.
can i just ask why you need a big brake kit on that above car? to me it looks like a very standard that does not need this. money is best spent elsewhere.

if you do want to improve your braking performance on a daily, from least expensive to expensive my recommendations would be:
-upgrade pads and brake fluid
-upgrade rotors and brake lines
-upgrade to EG6/DC2/EK4 front hubs which include larger calipers and larger rotors while still keeping your stud pattern at 4x100 (rotor increase from 242mm to 262mm at front)
-upgrade brake master cylinder and booster to a larger unit which can be had from an EG6/EK4 or DC2 type r aswell with a proportional valve from which you got the doner master cylinder and booster.

i myself have front hubs from a DC2 Vtir with upgraded pads and rotors, brake master cylinder and booster from an EK4, i didnt have to change the proportional valve because i already had rear rotors not drums.
I think this is a great set up for a daily beater, bang for buck and still using OEM parts

hope this helps you out buddy

[stndrd]

As stated above there are many OEM options available to get better stopping power. If however, you do have your mind set on a BBK, I can supply an ATS mini 6 pot kit with either 282mm or 303mm (depending on rim size) for $1585 (282mm rotors) or $1735 (303mm rotors) + shipping. All of our kits come with calipers, mounting brackets, pads, rotors & braided brake lines.

[zapantalambda]

@riruiz_88

thanks for the info mate. i might as well start with pads, fluid and brake lines. :)

[curtis265]

Hi

do a bit of reading on what brakes do and how they work - otherwise you may end up with a BBK and have worse braking than previously if you don't know how to set it up right.

Start with pads, and rotors. Dissipate that heat so that you can brake hard multiple times.

and then better tyres so that you can apply more braking force

[zapantalambda]

@curtis265

thanks for the info mate. will research on that. :)

[ChaosMaster]

Yeah, these guys are right. I'll just add that genuine Brembo BBK front and rear will set you back more than the cars worth, i.e. definitely not worth it. Especially considering the weight of the car and it's actual performance potential, there's really no need. Pads are the easiest upgrade as they are what are actually touching the rotors. You'll find that proper track pads will increase your braking performance dramatically, although do note that track pads tend to be noisy when cold, and overly bitety/touchy for road use. "Sport" pads are prob the way to go.

[curtis265]

^exactly that, braking is all about compromise between bite, rotor abrasion, noise, cold performance

[DreadAngel]

Brake selection is all about application and balance, no point putting on a massive kit when you're putting around with some carby 1.5L doing daily work. Unless you're looking for glam then by all means go blow your hard earned wads of cash on it.

If you're running a low powered stock engine and just daily work, no spirited driving, just mild street pads, new fluid, full flush/bleed will do the trick.

Bolt on [I/H/E] + daily + occasional spirited driving, then go for something a little more aggressive but won't increase the deterioration to stock rotors too much is the ticket with the above.

Its only when you start putting in big increases in overall performance and substantial changes to application do you need to seek out BBKs or Track spec pads/rotors.

Obviously car to car is different, what an 1.5L Carby EG considers as normal would be inadequate for say a S2000 or LanEvo or GT-R for that matter. Balance is key here =)

[connorling]

brakes work as well as the tyres.

overkill brakes with shitty tyres will give you shitty performance.
wheel lock up etc.

and since bigger brakes generally increase in weight, so it might actually slow you down due to weight.
disadvantage>advantage.

DC2 vtir brakes or Prelude BB4 brakes are more than enough for your car.

[zapantalambda]

ok mates i reck'n i got the idea now of what all of you are saying.

so first, i'll start with my brake pads, fluid and brake linings.
2. upgrade Rotor.
3. upgrade to DC2 vtir or Prelude BB4 brakes.

my follow-up questions are:

1. what specific rotor should i buy and is compatible to my honda civic EG?

2. Are those brakes -DC2 vtir and Prelude BB4- compatible to my honda civic EG?
Shouldn't i be worried installing it to my car? im just worried that i might encounter a problem by the time i install it.

[stndrd]

If you order some DBA Gold Slotted & Dimpled 262mm rotors & second hand calipers (both to suit DC2/DC4) with some Project Mu B-Spec pads (rated at 0-500 degrees), along with some good DOT4 brake fluid, you will find that this is one of the best front brake packages going for street use. I have tried other pads ie Ferodo, Bendix etc and personally, you just can't beat Project Mu.

When it comes to installing it all, it will be a direct bolt on to your EG hubs. NO CHANGING IS REQUIRED and your standard brake lines will work

[Jasemas]

Can i make a suggestion to all these lovely suggestions
What about braided brake lines?

[DreadAngel]

Make sure its ADR approved [Earl's aren't as are a few other brands off my head] if its driven on the street, otherwise insurance company will void the policy...

I got my one made up with ADR approved hoses and fittings [Goodridge] =)

Ensure that the brake lines are held properly if custom made, not too much slack with correct clips/fittings so it attaches to the shock and car body nicely and have the plastic sleeves fitted over them too, cheap protection ;)

[riruiz_88]

If you order some DBA Gold Slotted & Dimpled 262mm rotors & second hand calipers (both to suit DC2/DC4) with some Project Mu B-Spec pads (rated at 0-500 degrees), along with some good DOT4 brake fluid, you will find that this is one of the best front brake packages going for street use. I have tried other pads ie Ferodo, Bendix etc and personally, you just can't beat Project Mu.

When it comes to installing it all, it will be a direct bolt on to your EG hubs. NO CHANGING IS REQUIRED and your standard brake lines will work
standard brake line will work, though i found out that stock EG front lines are about ~3mm too short for DC2 calipers. i just stretched the line being very careful to look for any cracks or leaks that appeared.
have been running fine for the last 3-4years.
also for him to run 262mm rotors, he must change his hubs to EG6/EK4/DC2

[stndrd]

My apologies, you will need to upgrade to DC2 brake hoses, but in regards to the hubs, I have never needed to replace them and I have done this many times in the past

[GU357]

Im running my b16 on a stock brakes (of eg4 with a D15) and its not like i dont have enough brake force to stop. just use the gears and also have a cusco brake stopper.
even before then it sufficed. and on a cruise day i got some brake fade but thats because when ur following ppl quite close like in a cruise your braking a lot.

[GU357]

Can i make a suggestion to all these lovely suggestions
What about braided brake lines?

they are good if your old ones aren't in best of condition. then go straight to braided instead of more rubber.
if you still have good firm but not cracking rubber ones then keep them.

[zapantalambda]

Just Out of Interest:

how bout project MU brake kit? is it compatible to a honda civic 92 EG?
did anyone here install it in their civics?

[GU357]

waste of dosh

[DreadAngel]

Forget about aftermarket kits, they're all upgrade, inch up or BBKs, all of them unnecessary for you unless you like to blow $$$ on big shiney stoppers for wank factor OR you're going to go racing...

And you're yet to state the specs of your car and its application so you'll get everyones 5c on what you should do...

Help us help you ;)

[connorling]

i disagree with that.....
it makes such a difference when i install my Goodridge braided brake lines over my rubber lines in good condition.

you should do it man, since u were saying your brake is a bit spongy



they are good if your old ones aren't in best of condition. then go straight to braided instead of more rubber.
if you still have good firm but not cracking rubber ones then keep them.

[curtis265]

i disagree with that.....
it makes such a difference when i install my Goodridge braided brake lines over my rubber lines in good condition.

you should do it man, since u were saying your brake is a bit spongy
i see. Will consider this in future..

thank Connor

[zapantalambda]

Mates I've seenthis page on the internet.
http://forums.nwp4life.com/zerothread?cmd=print&id=5398

so let's say, if i'll gonna change my stock rotors, what's the ideal upgrade?
is the DBA Gold Slotted & Dimpled 262mm rotors any good? do you mates got pictures?

[stndrd]

RDA make the Gold range with slotted & dimpled.

I am currently using them on my track EG with Project Mu Club Spec 200-800 degree pads (until the pads wear out) and I have had no issue with them what so ever. Personally I believe they hold up better than the DBA 4000.

Best bang for buck upgrade would be VTi-R calipers, pads, rotors, booster & master cylinder with some braided brake lines & master cylinder stopper

[zapantalambda]

Best bang for buck upgrade would be VTi-R calipers, pads, rotors, booster & master cylinder with some braided brake lines & master cylinder stopper

G'day mate. Can you give me a rough estimation on how much it would cost me to have this kind of upgrade?
and 2. Do you supply all these parts?

[GU357]

braided lines 170$
BMC + Booster from dc2 vtir probs around 200$
front brakes and rear brake conversion probably cost around 500$
BMC stopper from cusco is 150$

i got one for 75$ second hand.

[zapantalambda]

braided lines 170$
BMC + Booster from dc2 vtir probs around 200$
front brakes and rear brake conversion probably cost around 500$
BMC stopper from cusco is 150$

i got one for 75$ second hand.

..but the question mate is, who's gonna install it to my civic?
i wish i knew someone who knows how to do it here in my place -nsw. =/

[curtis265]

..but the question mate is, who's gonna install it to my civic?
i wish i knew someone who knows how to do it here in my place -nsw. =/

there are heaps of people in NSW who can do it. Just gotta make friends with the right people, or get the tools and develop enough interest to do the research

[GU357]

..but the question mate is, who's gonna install it to my civic?
i wish i knew someone who knows how to do it here in my place -nsw. =/

theres a place in sydney called Ison industries look him up like him on FB he has an EG with a b20 vtec, he has done it and can do it.

[connorling]

braided lines 170$
BMC + Booster from dc2 vtir probs around 200$
front brakes and rear brake conversion probably cost around 500$
BMC stopper from cusco is 150$

i got one for 75$ second hand.


..but the question mate is, who's gonna install it to my civic?
i wish i knew someone who knows how to do it here in my place -nsw. =/

Braided line:
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?170048-Installation-of-stainless-steel-braided-brake-lines&highlight=braided+line

BMC and BB:
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?143093-How-to-swap-your-BMC-Booster.-EG-DC&highlight=brake+master+cylinder

Brake fluid flush:
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?11867-DIY-Brake-fluid-flush&highlight=brake+master+cylinder

rear drum brakes to disc brakes:
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?115118-Swap-your-rear-Drums-for-Discs!!&highlight=brake+master+cylinder

brake stopper:
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?25262-CUSCO-CYLINDER-BRAKE-STOPPER-REVIEW-and-INSTALLATION&highlight=brake+master+cylinder

[zapantalambda]

theres a place in sydney called Ison industries look him up like him on FB he has an EG with a b20 vtec, he has done it and can do it.

I went to ISON's already and had my shocks + springs fitted there. thank you for the recommendation though.

[curtis265]

Braided line:
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?170048-Installation-of-stainless-steel-braided-brake-lines&highlight=braided+line

BMC and BB:
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?143093-How-to-swap-your-BMC-Booster.-EG-DC&highlight=brake+master+cylinder

Brake fluid flush:
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?11867-DIY-Brake-fluid-flush&highlight=brake+master+cylinder

rear drum brakes to disc brakes:
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?115118-Swap-your-rear-Drums-for-Discs!!&highlight=brake+master+cylinder

brake stopper:
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?25262-CUSCO-CYLINDER-BRAKE-STOPPER-REVIEW-and-INSTALLATION&highlight=brake+master+cylinder

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to connorling again.

[GU357]

give it to me then kuntis265