BC coilovers or GAB coilovers

[axel777]

Hey guys thinking about upgrading my suspension for my eg. been looking at bc v1 coilovers and i heard about GAB coilovers. which ones do you guys recommend? the bc's are like under 900 bux.
cheers

[DreadAngel]

Which GAB? Made in JP or made in MAS?

And personally I recommend neither...

What are you using the car for?

[axel777]

street. its my daily. Dunno where they are made but ive seen the BYP boys selling them.

[lolmclol]

Inb4 sold with no springs

[Stevil]

Axel777 I've had Gab SS on my Civic for 20K now and Im pleased with there performance. Done 4 trackday recently and mucking round with ride height and Dampning is a piece of piss. I changed my mind on rear spring rates after initial testing at the track and I was able to order some stiffer rear springs for SFA. Yes I looked at the BC stuff before I bought GAB SS but they just seem a little too cheap.

[axel777]

thanks for the input bro. i thought that GAB was cheaper than BC on ebay if i can remember...

[Stevil]

maybe, I inspected the BC's at a car parts shop they looked OK, Im sure there's probably not much in it, see if you can find a local supplier and check both out.

[p.v]

gab ss 750 posted from malay, took 3 business days.
seller: fitzrace, gotta ask for discount though and isnt dealt through ebay but he sends invoice to your email. make sure pay by paypal as it is more secure.

beware: had rediculously sh*t communication with this seller, but item came perfecto

[integraR]

Which GAB? Made in JP or made in MAS?

And personally I recommend neither...

What are you using the car for?

i think this is the one not made in jp

cos they shut down ages ago

[curtis265]

Axel777 I've had Gab SS on my Civic for 20K now and Im pleased with there performance. Done 4 trackday recently and mucking round with ride height and Dampning is a piece of piss. I changed my mind on rear spring rates after initial testing at the track and I was able to order some stiffer rear springs for SFA. Yes I looked at the BC stuff before I bought GAB SS but they just seem a little too cheap.

well acutally

these cheapies will do quite well on the track compared to the streeet... and i would imagine swapping the rear springs on the FD is easier (therefore cheaper) compared to an actual coilover system

[Stevil]

Curtis do over 1000km a week on some pretty shit roads and ride on the street is pretty damn fine for a ' cheapie ', one of the few benefit of the FD design, rear spring change takes 30sec with the wheel off the ground. I was more pointing out that GAB SS coilovers do offer the ability to get diff spring rates that wont break the bank, cant comment on other Coilover companies ??

[EKVTIR-T]

I will choose Malay GAB over Taiwan BorChuann anyday

[curtis265]

Good to hear stevil :thumbsup:

was referring to drive with sporty style on street and having confidence over bumpy kind surface, not so much general dailying

[Apu]

It would be interesting to hear from people who have had both brands on their car - that's really the only way to be able to tell the difference, as the owner would have driven the same route etc.

I personally believe that the bang for buck end of the market does tend to do well on the track but tend not to perform as well compared to the top end brands on the street where the surface is less smooth.

I have Yellowspeeds on my DC2R and they are fine on the track and on smooth roads, but drive down King Street in Sydney...just shocking. That said, that street is crap even in my peoplemover.

6 of one, half dozen of the other. You're talking budget end of the market - Brand A will be a bit better in one area, Brand B will be better in another.

I believe their build quality is just as good (BC vs GAB), such is the manufacturing in Malaysia and Taiwan these days but they are the budget end of the market, so expect that they will have their compromises.

[DreadAngel]

street. its my daily. Dunno where they are made but ive seen the BYP boys selling them.


i think this is the one not made in jp

cos they shut down ages ago

Yeah, apparently some people get doped into thinking they are =|


well acutally

these cheapies will do quite well on the track compared to the streeet... and i would imagine swapping the rear springs on the FD is easier (therefore cheaper) compared to an actual coilover system


Good to hear stevil :thumbsup:

was referring to drive with sporty style on street and having confidence over bumpy kind surface, not so much general dailying

They've improved some what over the years but still heavily compromised when it comes to the rigids of daily life.

Valving being linear and underdampened in generally equates to harsh ride, this was a particular trait of brands like D2, G4, early spec BCs, etc. This area has been improved a bit recently but still not up to my standard.

Quality wise some get lucky, some don't. I know personally of many people having sets that last a few years before giving up the ghost whilst others just one year in and the top mounts already knocking etc.

[Apu]

From memory, it's quite clearly labelled on the GAB boxes plus quick internet search will show that GAB is manufactured in Malaysia. I think that in this day and age, if anyone buys anything without at least doing a cursory search just has to man up and not cry about being conned.

As for reliability, it really depends on usage. Some drivers are careful about approaching kerbs, speed humps and potholes whilst others will just drive through them. My friends and I have had Euro brand suspension fail on us "prematurely" as well, so...

What I suspect is that those who have spent a huge amount on their cars tend to take much better care of their cars as well.

[Honda_FD]

What spring rates are on the GAB?

BC BR Gold series were 6:6 and i changed mine to 10:8
with no extra charge. They just had to send it coilover back to
the company and get the shocks to match the new spring settings

Im not sure about the policy on GAB but if you want to change the springs to
stiffer rates make sure you ask before you purchase the Coilover System.
Most coilovers company can change them and rebuild the shocks free of charge

[Apu]

Not sure if most coilover dealers will change springs free of charge but I have heard of a few who allow the buyer some choice.

I haven't heard of any coilover dealer / company who will do a rebuild free of charge though!

[Honda_FD]

Not sure if most coilover dealers will change springs free of charge but I have heard of a few who allow the buyer some choice.

I haven't heard of any coilover dealer / company who will do a rebuild free of charge though!

Just depends where you go. Im not from sydney so i wouldnt really know where to go but I got mine from GarasiAuto in Melbourne and it was quick and easy. http://www.garasiauto.com/
They do other brands aswell so maybe contact them. If you buy from them remember to Mention you're an OzHonda Member and you get a discount :D

Garasi does custom spring rates and goes as high as you desire and gets shipped back to the manufacter to get rebuilt and run the new springs correctly with no extra cost. If you keep the original Springs it only takes 3 days to be delivered to your door. Also has 12 Month warranty. Not bad IMO

They have a warehouse in Sydney were they keep most of their stock. So might be even quicker for you haha

[Astrodice]

I was looking at the BC BR's but came across AMR engineering coilovers. Seem to have a very good reputation in the US and some OH members run them and say they are great. (thanks to their input as well :thumbsup:) Seriously thinking of them but they are more expensive though. Andy from AMR is really great to talk to as well. Any comments about the AMR's would be welcomed. Group buy anyone? :)

[Cartoon]

Expect to wait. Don't be in a rush for them

[Honda_FD]

http://firesport.com.au/ek-civic-gab-ss-coilovers-turbo-boost--ad238827.htm

EK Coilovers fit into EGs?

[Adrian128]

What is your price limit on the purchase+installation? I purchased Teins a few months ago for $930(+some change) delivered to my door...2 year warranty, made in Japan...plus $220 fitting... that being said, it's only used for the street, and it's not "slammed"...I've read BCs go lower.. suffice to say that I'm very happy with them... adjustment is a bit of a pain...but that's because of the car..not the coilovers. :)

[Oxer]

What spring rates are on the GAB?

BC BR Gold series were 6:6 and i changed mine to 10:8
with no extra charge. They just had to send it coilover back to
the company and get the shocks to match the new spring settings

Im not sure about the policy on GAB but if you want to change the springs to
stiffer rates make sure you ask before you purchase the Coilover System.
Most coilovers company can change them and rebuild the shocks free of charge

Ill let you in on a secret, they don't change the shocks when you order custom spring rates.....

[Stevil]

GAB SS can be ordered with any spring rate, mine came with 7/6kg, after driving for a 4 months and doing a few track day I upped the spring rate in the rear to 10kg and then just recently I upgrade the fronts to 10kg also. I managed to bend a front shaft on the coilover ( stupid offset +42 at the track cause the tyre to rub so bad I actually bent the shaft, im talking sweeping left hander at 140kmh) suprisingly the coilover still worked fine, but due to the bend the Camber couldnt be set properly and the camber would actually change thru compression ( made braking at the track difficult ). Bottom line Gab supplied me with a hold new Gas insert and shaft for under $100. Couldnt be happier with them for the price.

[DreadAngel]

GAB SS can be ordered with any spring rate, mine came with 7/6kg, after driving for a 4 months and doing a few track day I upped the spring rate in the rear to 10kg and then just recently I upgrade the fronts to 10kg also. I managed to bend a front shaft on the coilover ( stupid offset +42 at the track cause the tyre to rub so bad I actually bent the shaft, im talking sweeping left hander at 140kmh) suprisingly the coilover still worked fine, but due to the bend the Camber couldnt be set properly and the camber would actually change thru compression ( made braking at the track difficult ). Bottom line Gab supplied me with a hold new Gas insert and shaft for under $100. Couldnt be happier with them for the price.

Nice quality...

[dove grey 64]

Personally I wouldnt use either.
Id go for shockworks, local support and sales, great quality and not overpriced. You can check them out on FB

[Stevil]

dove grey I bought my GAB SS coilovers locally, they are great quality. I received assistance when I needed to replace the insert and I paid $1100. Never heard of Shockwork ??

[chargeR]

Personally I wouldnt use either.
Id go for shockworks, local support and sales, great quality and not overpriced. You can check them out on FB

+1. I have met the Shockworks guys and it's likely that Brett has more damper knowledge in his left pinky than the combined workforces at Gab and BC. Can't beat proper local support and advice.

[Stevil]

Can't find a listing for honda's on their website, do you have to wait for these to be built n shipped ? Knowledge is worth a brass razzo if they are a quality product, anybody tracking them, what's a ball park figure for them ?

[dove grey 64]

Can't find a listing for honda's on their website, do you have to wait for these to be built n shipped ? Knowledge is worth a brass razzo if they are a quality product, anybody tracking them, what's a ball park figure for them ?

Sorry to bump this, should have monitored it.
Shockworks currently have integra and eg/ek setups. (Also getting started on my ef wagon)
Price is $1800-2k for a complete set.
Also doing a s2000 this week I believe.
They are a relatively new company, but as chargeR said, brett the owner was a prodrive employee and has extensive suspension experience and knowledge.
Sorry if it sounds like a sales pitch, I just like giving props to companies that do quality work, they use my ae86 as their demo/tuning car and it handles amazeballs