Rhino ? Mongoose ? Car Alarm...

[HRV-80Y]

hey guyz just curious what brand you guys prefer for a car alarm...

rhino or mongoose...? :confused: :confused: :confused:

i'm undecided...

and also if anyone knows a place that installs alarm for a reasonable price and quality install...

[REK13S]

fairfield car radio does a good job

[HRV-80Y]

fairfield car radio does a good job

any idea how much it costs for standard alarm install?

[VTC-8OY]

mongoose ..... go to lifestyle store. u get good discount price and installed.. rougly round 300$ and up, depending on which alarm series u want.

[Nodachi]

it cost my dad $180 inc installation for a rhino alarm mid last year on his van... umm.. his from strathfield car radio.

And it cost me $250 inc installation on my civic for a fighter(??) big differences same guy

[fongyfong]

hey i was gonna get rhino, but decided not to i heard there shiet so id say go mongoose, but theres this guy selling rhino car alarms on ebay for pretty cheap and installing he charges 150 bucks in parra sydney

[civ_sik]

mongoose fo sure

[mr_mojo02]

i had a mongoose alarm in my last car.. about 200 bucks from lifestyle. Very good alarm, had a sensor for everything

[joneblaze]

Mongoose M series and Rhino RA? series alarms are both top quality. :)
Just check out the features and pricing and see what appeals the most.

Btw HRVBOY, your car looks a hell of a lot like Mark's (YSPOOL)! :)

[Speeder]

I've never had expereince with both the mentioned alarms, but have used Repeller alarms, and I was very happy with them. it had motion thingy, auto window, panic etc. A bit expensive though.

[HRV-80Y]

Mongoose M series and Rhino RA? series alarms are both top quality. :)
Just check out the features and pricing and see what appeals the most.

Btw HRVBOY, your car looks a hell of a lot like Mark's (YSPOOL)! :)

hehe yeh man coz u kno why ?

its practically the same car same year, model, batch etc i fink just that his got leather seats...

his got type r optional sideskirts i dun...:D :D :D

[clikz]

Ive had a mongoose alarm on my previous car and my present one.
Cost me $180 for the M20s i think it is (2nd stage shock sensor, backup battery etc)
Pretty good alarm, Id recommend it :thumbsup:

[HRV-80Y]

fanx man,

i got a mongoose m60 been doin its job so far good units...

[redliner]

i got Top Rhino alarm, plenty of function and programable.
Abit hard to understand at 1st, but you get it sooner or later, guess that the down side of it. beside that, top alarm.. long warrenty too

[jdm_kid]

fanx man,

i got a mongoose m60 been doin its job so far good units...

how much was urs pascoe? ...including installation?

[HRV-80Y]

how much was urs pascoe? ...including installation?

$450 installed...

[davey]

well the good thing about mongoose is that every model is upgradable, so if you buy the base series which is just the siren and 2nd stage sensor etc, you can just upgrade it with ultrasonic sensors and glass break sensors which are just plug in and play.

im not too sure if the rhinos can do this. there is a mongoose wholesaler at hornsby the no. is 9482 4444 speak to paul and he will help you out

[BiGANG]

flashpoint is pretty good as well, Ive had that in the teg for a little while, and i like it. The rhino(GTS model) i used to have in my crx i used to get the occasional false alarm when i was sleeping at 4 in the morning. But yea, other than that, they are both good alarms. I got my flashpoint one from lifestyle at parra as well, theyre pretty good, and dont butcher your car, I was watching them install

[fongyfong]

$450 installed...

where from?

[anna1984]

get a boomerang!!

[mj3610]

cost me 380 for mongoose plus central locking kit installed and 3 years warranty, go for mongoose they got 3 years warranty its worth it, but if u can gettem to not use colored wiring (if its possible)

[ITRBoI]

$450 installed...

got my mongoose m80, with tilt, microwave install for 450 to 500. 3 point immoboliser, back up batt, black wiring, shock sensor....price is installed :D excellent alarm no problems so far

[Vinh]

Ive got a mongoose alarm in my dc2. Initially, however i had a lot of trouble afterwards with the central locking. Having said that, it was the installer's fault not the product. Good and effective alarm, just sensitive to my liking. Mine was a mx40 and i cant remember exactly what i paid for it but from the top of my head 300 - 350 rings a bell.

[HRV-80Y]

yep i got mongoose installed...is doin its job for me !

but jus dun go mongoose window lifters with their alarms aparently their touble...

[DeSloth]

Mongoose M60 series here. Paid $260 and watched (er.. helped) a mate put it in.

I am finding the shock sensor very sensitive, and possibly dependant on temperatue? During the day it seems to be adjusted perfectly, but often loud cars / bikes / sound systems set it off at night.

Apart from that, it has all the features, and is reputed to be a nice alarm. Insurance approved (or so I was told), which is apparently useful.

[Captiva_Blue]

I've got a Black Widow in my civic and I would definitely recomend them.

Its got 2 stage shock sensor, doors/bonnet/hatch, 3 point imobiliser, ultrasonic sensors for the interior (senses glass breakage/anyone trying to force one of the doors/windows), all black wiring. Its very sensitive, shits itself everytime a stiff breeze blows past or I lock a fly inside.. :)

Was a bit pricey when it was installed (bout 2 1/2 yrs ago), bout $350 I think but well worth it.

[destrukshn]

it depends which model you're getting, 2pt imm are like $200-350 or so and the 3pt immobilisers are like $450+. My opinion is the rhino, there is one where when your alarm goes off it msgs you and you can immobilise your car with a message.

[R123]

any one got that type of Rhino alarm which it will sms u and callin u when it goes off..

[Q_ball]

yeh pas, ive got a mongoose alarm system in mine as well, function wise awesome!
got it from the lifestyle store as well.
unfortunately, their install was less than impressive, had a few issues with the way they did my wiring etc, and the SRS light of all things!!!

[ICACHA]

hey guyz just curious what brand you guys prefer for a car alarm...

rhino or mongoose...? :confused: :confused: :confused:

i'm undecided...

and also if anyone knows a place that installs alarm for a reasonable price and quality install...

regardless which brand you go with, thats not the first question you should be asking yourself or lets say the stores or members alike on forums.

what you should be asking is, who is security licensed as it is required by LAW that any security install be licensed, i know this for a fact as i got a few good friends who install home and car alarms and they are all licensed.

the old story that the store only needs a masters is total bullsh!t !!! each and every installer fitting anything to do with security MUST be licensed to install alarms whether being car or home. if they're not, walk away...

now is mongoose or rhino still your question? :wave:

[Slow96GSR]

Throw em all off, get a Cilfford alarm from DEI! They'll go crazy with that wire harness! But damn I love installing them!

[TRU32U]

hey mate, i used to install car alarms, to be honest, i wouldnt go for an alarm someone or everyone has, jus the fact that once u learn how to install one alarm few times then ull memorise the rest all the same thing, even if you have black wireing.
cause all u gotta do is crack open the case and see which wires soilderd where, and u got the wires ur looking for.
my best advice i can give you is get an alarm that no one else has.
cheap good alarms are way to go, mines proven that its pretty reliable, no false alarms so far:P
but hey up to you at the end of the day.

[Slow96GSR]

I don't know about there, but here it has been proven that 90% of car thieves pass a car if they see the little flashing light. We did installs of a unit that started to flash a light the moment the ignition was turned off, cost: $29.99USD, install $20USD… Savings: A lot!

[Nodachi]

hey i was gonna get rhino, but decided not to i heard there shiet so id say go mongoose, but theres this guy selling rhino car alarms on ebay for pretty cheap and installing he charges 150 bucks in parra sydney

apprantly they are well known for problem by NRMA, everythimg you ring them up on alarm problem, the first question they ask is, " is it a Rhino?". I myself had cal up NRMA on 3 occations which my remote will not disarm the car, nuthin wrong with the battery but most often the alram confused it self.

Not saying it's bad, i mean if i'm having trouble unlocking mine, it will be harder for thieves to unlock it right? anyways it's down to what your comfortable with:D:wave:

[bennjamin]

*BUMP* for info....

what are peoples thoughts up-to-date on mongoose alarms etc ?
What are the features ? Most alarsm have immobiliser etc ?
AND ofcourse what are "insurance friendly" ?


And can someone reccommend a good place in Sydney that is fully warranted and not....dodgy ?

[euro69]

i would perfer the mongoose...
it better than rhino...

[bennjamin]

i would perfer the mongoose...
it better than rhino...

any reviews here of the M24 or M25 ?

[euro69]

M24:# FEATURES
# Two 2 Button Remote Control
# Rolling Code & Code Learning
# Remote Panic
# Bonnet, Boot and Door Protection
# Built-in engine immobiliser
# 2nd immobiliser optional
# 2 Stage Shock Sensor
# Electronic Siren
# Built-in central locking relays
# Vehicle lights on warning
# Security Re-arm (and re-lock)
# Override Switch
# Dash Mounted LED
# Indicator Confirmation
# Chirp Confirmation
# 3 year product warranty
PROGRAMMABLE FEATURES:
# Ignition Safety Door Lock (If Central Door Locking is connected)
# Automatic(last door)arming
# Central Locking Pulse Length
SENSOR OPTIONS:
# Microwave sensor
# Ultrasonic sensor
# Electronic self-leveling tilt sensor
# PIR sensor
# Glass break sensor

M25:Features;
# Automatic three circuit engine immobiliser
# All black wiring
# 4 digit PIN coded override
# 2 Proximity transponder tags (Up to 4 tags may be used)
# Dash mounted LED
# Loop receiver antenna
# Audible confirmation

[VTECACCORD]

Ben get a Mongoose M80G, get it installed by a professional, or do it yourself.

I'm sure you are capable of getting it in.

[LEVIN GTV]

Go with Viper much better alarm

[VTECACCORD]

What makes viper so much better ?

Is it the lack of all black wiring ?
The non standard compliance to aussie standards, which insurance often requires ?
The unsafe remote start feature ?
The warning system which only works if your with ear shot of the car ?
The remote batteries that need to be replaced frequently ?
The single point of immobilisation ?
The non-battery back up siren ?
Or is it the huge price tag ?

[Dxs]

yeah viper is all a big name.. way over priced compaired to the rest

i wont say what i have
but i am sure that if you get a good brand with good features you shouldnt go wrong

[EGB18CT]

i just got a rhino rav2 insurance complied, plus piezo in cabin siren, dual microwave sensor, tilt sensor, and it has all the built in features like glass break, dual stage shock, 3pt immo..... all this fro 310 delivered from caraudiowarehouse.com.... (he made a bo bo on the price!) anyway its australian made in sydney and aparently its the same quality as the mongoose but like 30-50bux cheaper (without sensors) see how it goes once i install it.

[vtag]

Is it worth getting a 2 way tranceiver such as Viper 5000 alarm?

Apart from the downside that..

it doesn't have black wiring..:thumbdwn:
Batteries run out easily...:thumbdwn:
No Window Sensor...:thumbdwn:

Is there any other pros to choose a Mongoose over a Viper?

[ICACHA]

hey guyz just curious what brand you guys prefer for a car alarm...

rhino or mongoose...? :confused: :confused: :confused:

i'm undecided...

and also if anyone knows a place that installs alarm for a reasonable price and quality install...

since we're talking about alarms and animals, i say stuff the above and go for DOBERMAN. They dont eat much and can bully people around if provoked, bonus is they're fast and have very large fangs :p

[punjabiz]

i recon u shud get those new 2 way alarms... they are cool!!!...
but ye i got mongoose m60s installed by autobarn...i think it cost me like 310....

[euro69]

Another thing to think about when choosing an alarm system is if parts are readily available to you, the alarm companies themselves and do they comply with Australian standards.

Make sure you choose an alarm that is popular in your area and parts are easily accessible.
For example it's no good to you if you buy top-of-the range car alarm from china or USA because if you need an extra remote or extra part like faulty shock sensor or whatever you can get those things but how long will it take and how much??? Not cheap coming from across the globe. And if you need support it's going to be pretty hard to get.

Anothing thing is if you are looking for a professional install make sure you know who will be installing the alarm. Just because the person who spoke to you about getting an alarm installed will be the person installing the alarm. For example is going to a car alarm store and you speak to a person who you think knows what his talking about and then you choose to have it installed by him but then find out that an apprentice has been working on your car. Sometimes big franchise or companies do this.

Choose a car alarm that is most popular in your area (check your car alarm shops) for example Sydney would be mongoose and rhino. As these company has been in the game for years and years they will always be around, support is just a phone call away and parts will be easy to get as most car alarm stores in Sydney will know about these alarm meaning easy to get parts tech support wouldn't be hard.

Recommend mongoose as they comply to Australian standards, offer 3year min. warranty to 5 year warranty for top of line which company will offer these warranty as standard. This shows how confident and quality there alarms are did i mention reliability.

There alarms are also turbo timer compatible which means turbo cars with mongoose alarms can hook-up t/t and with engine running can arm the car without waiting for engine to turn off and no modifying crap to the alarm.

Hope this help in choosing your alarm.
Remember choose alarm if there easy accessible to you (parts, support), company background of alarm and reliability don't just choose alarms because it has fancy functions.

All mongoose and most car alarms can add on most optional extras such as central locking for keyless entry, window closures, ultrasonic and microwave sensors etc, etc.

[philBo]

yo! thought i'd revive this, looking to change my alarm to a mongoose one. what are peoples thoughts on theirs now that theyve used it for a while? any problems?

which models of the mongoose alarms do people recommend? how much are they roughly going for? cheers all

[THRILR]

http://www.caraudiowarehouse.com.au/catalog/index.php?cPath=133

Seem to have a great range and also do install at reasonable prices in Parramatta Sydney..

[philBo]

thanks mate, anyone have anything on the mongoose alarms or know of installers in melbourne?

[DC5TYPER]

Cyclops by Dynamco Australia make very reliable and good quality alarms. THey are also based in Perth and offer technical support to customers. 2 Years warranty standard when installed by there supplier.

All there alarms are Australian standard and they have alarms to suit any Insurance company standards aswell.

www.dynamco.com.au

[sik-vic]

i know cyclops are a very reliable alarm, with battery back up siren, a number of choices of additional sensors, (standard glass break), you can add microwave sensors, tilt sensors, shock (try and stay away from shock sensors as they are prone to going off at random times for no reasen eg loud exhaust, traffic, cats jumping on your bonnet at night!) Try not to add too many sensors tho keep it pretty simple, just do the microwave for movement and the standard glass break and of course all your bonnet boot and doors, and you should be safe. I'm an ex autobarn employee and have vast experiance with these alarms.... good choice.

P.S, the viper system is very expencive for what it is, the key fob is around $250 to replace if you break it and the stupid thing only has a range of around 250 meters, looks pretty shwanky tho

[Audio Express]

thanks mate, anyone have anything on the mongoose alarms or know of installers in melbourne?

stylyn car audio - bentleigh and boronia. give adam a bell and mention me :) from there he'll take care of you.

[marcus]

wat brand is m24 or m25??

[philBo]

stylyn car audio - bentleigh and boronia. give adam a bell and mention me :) from there he'll take care of you.

mention 'Audio Express'? or you got a name to go with that mate? hahaha thanks

[Audio Express]

they know who I am :)

[AhSeng]

I'm also looking at upgrading my alarm system.
Anyone has any more installer places in Melbourne to recommend?

Meanwhile, has anyone tried out any new alarm system?
Thanx!

[Audio Express]

see above :)

[Kiki]

Anyone know of any Rhino dealers in Melbourne??

[smoove]

can anyone recommend somethin real basic? ie looking to spend $200 or less installed...

all i want is an alarm with central locking and goes off when the door/boot/bonnet opens... somethin real basic... the civic has an immobiliser already in the key i believe

[Audio Express]

nothing in that price is going to be worth the effort ... really..

[Bayani]

can anyone recommend somethin real basic? ie looking to spend $200 or less installed...

all i want is an alarm with central locking and goes off when the door/boot/bonnet opens... somethin real basic... the civic has an immobiliser already in the key i believe

Not worth it, Seriously.
Do it once and Do it right.

Melb is quite cheap, so ask around.

[Limbo]

It is cos at least you having something open the doors and the car has some sort of immoboliser.

PM STOCK, and he might be able to work something out for you

[smoove]

yeh i'll try LifeStyle audio - heard some good things about them here...
i'm in Sydney btw.

Bad thing just happened, for some unknown reason, the key barrel in my passenger door just sinked into the door and dissapeared.. hence i cannot open the passenger door to fix it...

SIMILAR thing happened to my friend's CxI... looks like another niggling issue with the civic

[simonnowis]

mongoose for sure, iv had the m80g before and atm i have am m20, and m80g although has a heap more of features theres not much diff.
i prefer the m20 easy to use alarm. plus the m80g has 30sec re-arm, which gets really annoying.
i got the m80g done from fairfield car radio, good work but pricey.
i got the m20 done else where alot cheaper with good work.

also the m20 is a much louder alarm.

[Bayani]

That's nice for features, but in terms of ACTUAL security and system integrity? :)

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Re: Rhino Dealers from earlier post, = Contact Rhino Head office.

[smoove]

yeh looks like the m20 is the go...
i'd like to also put in some other small deterrants such as a bonnet lock and kill switch...

[Audio Express]

That's nice for features, but in terms of ACTUAL security and system integrity? :)

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if you mean integrity as is installation and how well it was done - good point. teh M20 will disable one point on the car. that is one unit that needs to be VERY well hidden. when you see it you will understand why.

[BlitZ]

^^ integrity ,, all based on the installer..

u can install a $2 china alarm with black wiring and it could be better than a mongoose..

[ks_b]

i got a question about all these alarms... so once we installed them, is that mean we have to carry 2 remote around? i.e. civic has remote on their key already.... is it possible to program the alarm so that it will activate using original remote on the key?

[[SDCTVE]]

i dont think you'll need the original remote anymore.
I've got a codealarm, and its really good, you can get them fully installed from JB for $400

[Sp00ny]

What makes viper so much better ?

Is it the lack of all black wiring ?
The non standard compliance to aussie standards, which insurance often requires ?
The unsafe remote start feature ?
The warning system which only works if your with ear shot of the car ?
The remote batteries that need to be replaced frequently ?
The single point of immobilisation ?
The non-battery back up siren ?
Or is it the huge price tag ?

Couldn't of said it better myself. I would go with Vision/Rhino/Mongoose expessially the new rhino alarm with built in GSM SMS communication. Much more reliable and useful than a traditional RF 2-Way system.

Viper have alot of wank factor features though, good if you don't care if your car is stolen but want auto-everything.

Although alot of it comes down to the installation. Positioning, Custom Kill Switches, How the steering covers etc are secured. You can have a very average alarm and still have a very secure car if you want to spend a few days on the installation. Also if you get it installed...don't expect it to protect anything. The majority of Auto Elec's don't care about your car's security, they rush the installation and don't worry about positioning. However, they need to make money for a living so you can't expect them too.

For eg. Why would anyone put the Alarms ECU under the dash, steering column or kick panel....that's where the theif is going to be tampering to begin with. Although I can understand its a simple position...it's a risky one. Also having the siren in direct sight in the bonnet at which point it can be tampered with in a matter of under 10 seconds...

Keep it Simple, Install it Hard. You've got time....They Don't ;)

[ejc_installations]

mongoose arent too bad... pretty good actually, but Try the pythons though... from jb hifi... Top quality with a shit load of options.... done a few myself. Not bad.

[Sp00ny]

mongoose arent too bad... pretty good actually, but Try the pythons though... from jb hifi... Top quality with a shit load of options.... done a few myself. Not bad.

FEI: Viper/Clifford/Python etc. etc. are all from the same base company...Directed Electronics Inc.? Similar with many other brands. They are groups rather than individual companies and product quality/design remains fairly consistant throughout...excluding the cheap made "independant" chinese ones off eBay.

I have found so many posts throughout the internet of Python vs. Viper (in terms of quality/design etc.)....its the same company...lol

Just thought i would mention it.

Edit: FEI = For Everyones Information

[jeffreymui]

btw....for the people in sydney..just wondering where lifestyle is? sorry if i had miss any replies in here that had already answered my silly question

[flipfire]

Its in their website, just quickly google lifestyle audio

[Bludger]

All the brands named on here are pretty shit imo.

apart from Brant.

I'm not saying what I have.

[ek4-guy]

All the brands named on here are pretty shit imo.

apart from Brant.

I'm not saying what I have.

whatever you got it aint nothing that a can of expanding foam can't fix :thumbsup:

[Bludger]

please explain.

[ek4-guy]

please explain.

expanding foam will silence most alarms

and alarm is only as good as it's install

[STOCK]

Couldn't of said it better myself. I would go with Vision/Rhino/Mongoose expessially the new rhino alarm with built in GSM SMS communication. Much more reliable and useful than a traditional RF 2-Way system.

Viper have alot of wank factor features though, good if you don't care if your car is stolen but want auto-everything.

Although alot of it comes down to the installation. Positioning, Custom Kill Switches, How the steering covers etc are secured. You can have a very average alarm and still have a very secure car if you want to spend a few days on the installation. Also if you get it installed...don't expect it to protect anything. The majority of Auto Elec's don't care about your car's security, they rush the installation and don't worry about positioning. However, they need to make money for a living so you can't expect them too.

For eg. Why would anyone put the Alarms ECU under the dash, steering column or kick panel....that's where the theif is going to be tampering to begin with. Although I can understand its a simple position...it's a risky one. Also having the siren in direct sight in the bonnet at which point it can be tampered with in a matter of under 10 seconds...

Keep it Simple, Install it Hard. You've got time....They Don't ;)

Agreed, its only as good as the install!

That being said though, rules out the possiblility of most DIY getting a good job done anyhow. Speak to the installer yourself and ask exactly how the installation will be completed, not the guy selling the alarm system =)

[ejc_installations]

true true.....

no matter how good the alarm is if they're gonna rip it, they will. (tow truck).

[Limbo]

yeah they just rip off the alarm siren & throw it and then your stuffed.
If they really want your car they will get it.
The alarm is just to make it harder so they pick on something else

[flipfire]

How about a covertly placed kill switch? Can theives bypass those too?

[ek4-guy]

How about a covertly placed kill switch? Can theives bypass those too?

a smart thieve can

say for instance if it's a fuel pump cut off all they need to do is give the fuel pump power via a piece of wire with aligator clips on the ends

then there is no need to find the switch

[flipfire]

I see, looks like prevention is hard.

I guess i should be looking at retrieval options.

What about a custom GPS transponder or quiktrak?

[ek4-guy]

I see, looks like prevention is hard.

I guess i should be looking at retrieval options.

What about a custom GPS transponder or quiktrak?

they send out same signal as mobile phones did

remember when your phone was about to ring and the radio would go nuts

well once the tracker is active all you need is a hand held radio that you run over the car and when it goes nuts your near the transmiter

then you just find it rip it out and chuck it

and back to instalation issue companies that fit these trackers are lazy and always install them in the same set places

for instance strathfield car radios install them behind the glove box in WRX's

[Sp00ny]

a smart thieve can

say for instance if it's a fuel pump cut off all they need to do is give the fuel pump power via a piece of wire with aligator clips on the ends

then there is no need to find the switch

I agree to an extent. If one wanted to go to greater extent to cut-off the Fuel Pump. Cut the ground wire at the fuel pump itself. No matter what you do, you cannot add a ground to it without gaining access to it. The fact that most Honda's have the fuel pumps under the seats means that it is VIRTUALLY impossible to remove all this whilst stealing the car unless it was VERY carefully planned... and if they went to this much trouble...they would be watching you to see where it is when you use it, or simply wait for a time you don't use it.

I think you a referring to a typical lazy switch where people cut if off from behind the dash/near the ECU...bad idea...the theif will already have his nose poking around this area...kill switches MUST be isolated from the alarm and underneath the drivers side dash.

Also if you cut-off the ground and run the equivilant or larger gauge wire than the existing one you have no problems with resistance or faulty relay switching designs. Also means you only have to run the wire one way so no double backs which is what also tips off theives.



they send out same signal as mobile phones did

remember when your phone was about to ring and the radio would go nuts

well once the tracker is active all you need is a hand held radio that you run over the car and when it goes nuts your near the transmiter

then you just find it rip it out and chuck it


To my understanding the main point of these devices is to alert you, your car has been broken into and immediantly attend to it. Retrival can have issues as you said, if its a smart theif (chances are if he/she has gotten past all this they are) then they would have methods to detect where they're hidden.


and back to instalation issue companies that fit these trackers are lazy and always install them in the same set places

for instance strathfield car radios install them behind the glove box in WRX's

As i said in an earlier post. The effort that goes into the install and extent to which it is hidden and placed is what limits or unlimits an alarm installation. I can gaurentee you I could make a car that a theif would not even attempt to spend time on unless they knew they had an hour and no chance of getting caught (such as a tip off/family member). However it would take me several days to install and get everything running.

However that still doesn't prevent them from towing your car...there are ways around that too...a tilt sensor/sms/2-way alarm will tell you that its being towed and then you attend to it immediantly or you remove/lock the towing eyes. It all comes down to how much effort you/alarm tech is willing to put in.

The saying still sticks "Where there's a will, there's a way" however you have to remember...you have time, they don't. Think Smart, Install it Hard...

If they know or sense you have an alarm this good, they won't even try...there will ALWAYS be people with less security and less risk than someone that has an Enthusiast/Paranoid level security system. According to Australian Statistics only 7% of the motor vehicles stolen each year are equipped with immobilisors. and over two thirds of the cars that are stolen are pre 1990's and are stolen by amatuers simply for a ride or to commit crime in.

Wow, i love to ramble. xD

[ek4-guy]

I agree to an extent. If one wanted to go to greater extent to cut-off the Fuel Pump. Cut the ground wire at the fuel pump itself. No matter what you do, you cannot add a ground to it without gaining access to it. The fact that most Honda's have the fuel pumps under the seats means that it is VIRTUALLY impossible to remove all this whilst stealing the car unless it was VERY carefully planned... and if they went to this much trouble...they would be watching you to see where it is when you use it, or simply wait for a time you don't use it.

I think you a referring to a typical lazy switch where people cut if off from behind the dash/near the ECU...bad idea...the theif will already have his nose poking around this area...kill switches MUST be isolated from the alarm and underneath the drivers side dash.

Also if you cut-off the ground and run the equivilant or larger gauge wire than the existing one you have no problems with resistance or faulty relay switching designs. Also means you only have to run the wire one way so no double backs which is what also tips off theives.




To my understanding the main point of these devices is to alert you, your car has been broken into and immediantly attend to it. Retrival can have issues as you said, if its a smart theif (chances are if he/she has gotten past all this they are) then they would have methods to detect where they're hidden.



As i said in an earlier post. The effort that goes into the install and extent to which it is hidden and placed is what limits or unlimits an alarm installation. I can gaurentee you I could make a car that a theif would not even attempt to spend time on unless they knew they had an hour and no chance of getting caught (such as a tip off/family member). However it would take me several days to install and get everything running.

However that still doesn't prevent them from towing your car...there are ways around that too...a tilt sensor/sms/2-way alarm will tell you that its being towed and then you attend to it immediantly or you remove/lock the towing eyes. It all comes down to how much effort you/alarm tech is willing to put in.

The saying still sticks "Where there's a will, there's a way" however you have to remember...you have time, they don't. Think Smart, Install it Hard...

If they know or sense you have an alarm this good, they won't even try...there will ALWAYS be people with less security and less risk than someone that has an Enthusiast/Paranoid level security system. According to Australian Statistics only 7% of the motor vehicles stolen each year are equipped with immobilisors. and over two thirds of the cars that are stolen are pre 1990's and are stolen by amatuers simply for a ride or to commit crime in.

Wow, i love to ramble. xD

i tip i once got from one of my installers was to get a different colour lcd such as a super bright blue

as some theives can tell the alarm brand by the intensity and colour of the lcd

then they are already a step ahead because they know what they are dealing with before they touch a thing

(and ofcoarse don't display stickers for the brand of alarm but i hope that a given these days)

[Sp00ny]

i tip i once got from one of my installers was to get a different colour lcd such as a super bright blue

as some theives can tell the alarm brand by the intensity and colour of the lcd

then they are already a step ahead because they know what they are dealing with before they touch a thing

(and ofcoarse don't display stickers for the brand of alarm but i hope that a given these days)

Very true. I must say thieves like this would be a rare breed in Australia lol. Even if they know what alarm it is...they most likely will only know brand. If you hide the alarm in the door....or quarter panel (coupe/hatch) they won't be able to get to it. The main issue is a theif knowing the car itself. The alarm doesn't really come into if they know the electrical system off the top of their head.

Stickers are good, but only saying the features/type of alarm. For example: "Mugen Custom Security on Board..." or "Mugen 2-Way/GPS System On Board" something that would confuse the thief and make them wonder to the extent of which the alarm system is installed.

Or...install a hardcore system with no warnings; let them brake in and f*ck up! lol

[flipfire]

My alarm alerts me as soon as the shock sensor has been triggered or door opened (aslong as im 1km* near the car).

Is there any way for them to disable it beforehand and not alert me?

[Sp00ny]

My alarm alerts me as soon as the shock sensor has been triggered or door opened (aslong as im 1km* near the car).

Is there any way for them to disable it beforehand and not alert me?

Yes, but let's keep that method off public forums... put it this way...it is unlikely they are going to use this method unless your car is worth ALOT of effort and risk...and they know you have a 2-Way alarm system.

[flipfire]

I see, well my next door neighbors are abit sus. Just making sure they cant steal my car while im at work or sleeping

I believe they tried to steal my rims but they couldnt undo the locknut. I shockingly drove around with 1 nut on the wheel till i heard clonking noises.

[tiksie]

Stay away from Strathfield Car Radio -_- Dodgiest kents.......

[Fuzz21]

hey. ive got a auto watch in my dc5r. its from south africa and is the competition to brant. the guy that installs it imports it himself.
its got 5 point immobiliser. 5 digit pin number on a 4 digit pad. all black wires. doors/boot/bonnet. tilt sensor. mirco sensor. shock sensor. also has the option for sat track and window lifters as an option. pm me if u want more details.

good luck

[MWAKU]

im looking to upgrade my alarm system, how much does these cost to get them professionally installed? where are good reliable places to get these done?

how much do these mongoose alarms usually cost??? anyone with some prices thanks.

[Audio Express]

and you live where?

[MWAKU]

sydney

[flipfire]

Your looking at around $400-$700 installed and $50 for a kill switch.

[MWAKU]

hmms thanks

but how much for the alarm standalone, cause my dad can install it

[flipfire]

$200-$400 depending on which level of mongoose alarm. Theres the M20 which was around $200 and theres the M80 which is around $400. M60 should be in between

[MWAKU]

oh ok thanks man!

[HRV-80Y]

almost 4 years on thread still going haha !

awesome !

[hotdc2]

What's the difficulty level of install on a M80au? From what you guys have said you can't trust anyone.. Reckon it could be done by myself?

[JDM.Power]

yep i will need some updated price, any ideas guys?

[flipfire]

http://www.soundmaster.com.au/products.asp?nid=402&desc=Car-Alarms-Mongoose-Car-Alarms

http://www.soundmaster.com.au/About-Soundmaster.asp

Their located at Granville, dont know anything about their service though.

[DNYALL]

I got a question.

If I was to buy an alarm system from EBay from an aussie shop. just like interstate or watever. Is there a place in Melb that could do the install. Because I know there are companies/shops out there that will only do the install of a product bought directly from them...

I will most likely try it myself but if it all gets too hard, would be good to know there is a place I can go to, to get it installed

So yeh anyone know of any places? autobahn or something maybe. don't know havn't really done my research on the alarm subject

[pr3lude]

http://www.soundmaster.com.au/products.asp?nid=402&desc=Car-Alarms-Mongoose-Car-Alarms

http://www.soundmaster.com.au/About-Soundmaster.asp

Their located at Granville, dont know anything about their service though.

Yea!!! www.soundmaster.com.au is the place to go bro. They did a good job - i got a m60 mongoose alarm there

[tiksie]

I have an alarm in my car, but I never got a pad from the seller as she said she had lost the remote.

I think the alarm is disarmed as I just use the key to open and lock the door (central locking) but there is a siren + wiring etc in the engine bay.. Is it possible to get a new key pad made ?

[Huggyb]

if you find out what brand it is, you can get spare remotes and program them to the system. You shoudl be able to find out what brand it is by looking at the siren, or under the dash if you can find the alarm unit.

[DNYALL]

BUMP.

I am sure there is a place, but does anyone know a place that would install an alarm that i have bought from say, ebay or another online store?

[Sypherg]

What alarm is it? PM me, i know someone who might able to do it, but usually he does supply and fit of most alarms which mentioned in this thread e.g. Rhino, Mongoose etc etc..

[ejc_installations]

Just get them to do the alarm. They'd probably charge you extra if you'e butcher'd it. M60's are good. Done on the other day. Just slip the installer a 50 or a case of beer. Im sure they'll do an extra good job for ya.

[Terryfying]

i use to have a rhino but then the alarm started playing up so i went the mongoose..not a problem since

[Sp00ny]

BUMP.

I am sure there is a place, but does anyone know a place that would install an alarm that i have bought from say, ebay or another online store?

YOU!

I'm happy to help, done a few in my time. I've installed the Spy 2-way/ebay alarms before.

DIY it! Don't pay someone to do something that you could do better! Most Auto Elecs do an average job...to save time/money.

[hotdc2]

i figured out that the alarm in my car is a rhino and it shit itself a couple of weeks ago. i want to sell the car and it's obviously a good thing to have before i sell it how much do you guys think it will cost to get it fixed?

can you reccomend any repair places for it?

cheers

[Gio]

Wtf is a lifestyle store, sounds like a gym or furniture store

[DNYALL]

YOU!

I'm happy to help, done a few in my time. I've installed the Spy 2-way/ebay alarms before.

DIY it! Don't pay someone to do something that you could do better! Most Auto Elecs do an average job...to save time/money.

I am a sparky so shouldn't be a problem. Just wanted to know, as bak up, incase I do struggle. The alarm I did get is pretty full on, not a cheapy... so hopefully I can work it out :p

Not looking forward to taking out my old alarm though...

[Sp00ny]

I am a sparky so shouldn't be a problem. Just wanted to know, as bak up, incase I do struggle. The alarm I did get is pretty full on, not a cheapy... so hopefully I can work it out :p

Not looking forward to taking out my old alarm though...

Just shoot us a PM/MSN if you need to know anything, im familiar with installing most alarms.

Also, are you coming to the dyno day?

[DNYALL]

ok I will, thanks man.

Yeh, I booked into the dyno. car should be finally done in time. so many delays...

[neo_phase]

Apologies for jumping in but does anyone know any good supplier and installer in the ACT or NSW Queanbeyan?

[MrVi3t]

rhino is pretty decent

[twofake]

I'm getting the Mogoose M80G and a microwave sensor for under $300 delivered as I have a S2000 with a crap alarm which came with it. I very much doubt that the current alarm was installed correctly as the alarm does not go off when the boot is opened and the alarm is on. Anyway I chose the M80G as I already have a really old Mongoose M560 alarm in my civic and the remote batteries lasted maybe 6 years and the alarm never gave a problem (up until a few months ago when it developed a bad connection and stopped (but I managd to find the problem and restored power to the circuit board by placing a positive jumper lead as the input connector had somehow corroded)) and never false alarmed.

Also the mongoose alarms have great boot release functions and silent open/close features if you push one button and then the next one.The new remotes have water resistance as well.

[EGB18CT]

stay away from rhino's mine drains my bloody battery quick smart within 2 weeks etc. running the rav2 with all sensors, tilt, mirrowave etc...

mongoose are good, but popular so hide the wiring as its a popular alarm.