Opinion on Maximworks Header

[macoman69]

Ive been told that a maximworks header would be one of the best ways to go for a DC2R

What are your regards on the brand Maximworks especially in regards to their headers

[hebe]

they're crap! x-force ones are good!

[macoman69]

Ive seen maximworks headers before and they look like they've been made to a pretty high standard

I was just interested to see what other people thought of it

(PS. Ive never heard of X-Force)

[JasonGilholme]

X-force is crap

[Chris_F]

they're crap! x-force ones are good!


I have maximworks headers and they are a beautiful piece... defintiely of the highest quality. Ask anyone who actually knows what they're talking about (unlike the guy above) and they will agree with this.

[stephen8512]

maxim works headers is ART! those things are top quality in both build and durability.
very strong too. i also heard its even better than TODA headers. i'll take a stab and say its prob THE best aftermarket headers u can get

[TheFranchise]

i've heard around ozhonda that xforce are shyte.....

i've heard xforce mufflers and i dont like them....also, something about xforce headers not being tuned length so they sound like poo.....i wouldnt be putting cheap parts in a ITR if i was you....

[macoman69]

its good to head that maximworks is a very good brand and reliable

This has reassured me (and made me decide to purcahse maximworks in the near future)

[macoman69]

does anybody know where i could get some more information on maximworks products
(tried looking for website but couldnt find it)

[spoonfed]

yeah call steven from centrax in brissie on 07 33 497 888 he gets them in all the time

[macoman69]

yeah ive already bugged them heaps about products (they are very good at centrax)

They have always been a huge help, so before i go bug them again i thought i might do some of my own research

[Malenic1981]

Don't know about maximworks but I have Xforce 4-1 headers on my ITR and I am very happy with them, power, sound and looks are all ok. For some $500 I don't think you can get anything better. I was gonna change them (they were on the car when i got it) but after talking to people from few tuning shops in Perth I decided to keep them, all of them said that Xforce was ok, not as good as mugen, spoon or toda but there were good value for money and much better than standard ITR headers.
How much are those maximworks headers, are thay 4-1 or 4-2-1 and does anyone have a picture of them???

[[DCEIVR]]

Definitely a good quality header...similarly priced to Toda so not bad at all...

[Max Power]

Pure pornography. I was at centrax today when they were fitting one of the maximworks headers to a car and was lucky enough to get under the car when it was on the hoist to have a look. It fits as well as a stock header and the construction is immaculate!

[nipnip]

TBH i havnt heard anything extremely positive about maximworks headers... a trader (edw-r ) is the only one i know who have had them and he is now using JDM 4-1, maybe u should ask him how they compare

[TeMp]

they're crap! x-force ones are good!

r u being serious or sarcastic?


i'll take a stab and say its prob THE best aftermarket headers u can get

What is this statement based on?

Not sure if you guys remember but a few months ago (maybe more) there was a dude on this forum complaining about not making enough power through his mods. It ended up that the x-force headers was actually making less power then the stock header. Adrian from TODA AU provided dynos in that thread to prove that point.

Maximworks headers are definitely up there with TODA, Mugen and etc. And for around about the 2k mark it better be! :p

All my comments are based on dc5 products. Meaning each brand's header for different cars maybe of different quality (quality, performance gain and etc)

[Chris_F]

max power... that was my car i think.. who were you?

[jimmeh]

if your really wanna see how good the maximworks headers is contact blkcrx on the forums he should have a dyno print out for you

[Tony]

I have had experience with both X-force and maximworks.

X-Force: Seriously.. you get what you paid for. If you look inside the X-force header runners, you will notice the welds are only on the outer surface and they are not penetrated into the gaps. I'm not sure about yours, but mine didn't fit perfectly, there's a 0.5cm gap between the downpipe and the header collector and I had to force it to fit.

Maximworks: OEM fitment, comes with OEM gaskets for installation. Superb weld quality, very smooth surface throughout the inside of the runners. Come on, these people make headers for GT race cars in Japan, they are capable of welding titanium/inconel headers, these headers are piece of cake for them.

I don't have dyno sheets to prove so I'm not going to compare power difference here. I'll let others comment about this.

[Malenic1981]

Xforce headers for DC5 are no good, that's right, but 4-1 design for DC2 are ok, as I said not as good as big brands but better than stock ozi ITR header, mine fits perfectly, I have Apexi air intake and cat back (cat back is shit) and I made 139.1hp at the wheels on dyno (that's the lowest reading dyno in Perth, so on other ones it would be well over 140hp). Just to compare, guy with JDM B18C-R (in civic) with mugen headers, mugen cat back and apexi air intake made some 6hp more tham me on that same dyno, try to calculate price difference of his stuff and mine.

[JDC5R]

Some JGTC cars use Maximworks headers that should be able to give you an idea of quality ;)

[Malenic1981]

They must be good quality for that price, I don't know why did anyone start this Xforce VS maximworks thing, xforce good but not as good as top brands.
As someone said, you get what you pay for, it's good value for money.

[roar]

sorry to bring up an old thread...

but yer...i have maximworks headers in my ek4 and i love them to bits

[TODA AU]

Stock vs JUN (JUN header is Maxim Works header)
http://photo.hondatech.com.au/header%20comparision%202/stock_JUN.gif

Stock vs TODA
http://photo.hondatech.com.au/header%20comparision%202/stock_Toda.gif

[kyobibi]

^ nuff said.

[jords]

I have Mugen 4-1 headers, perform well and sound great....money well spent.

[edw-R]

No one worry about the quality of Mugen.

[TODA AU]

No will argue, Mugen headers look very nice...
However they don't perform as well as they look.

Stock DC2-R 4~2~1 Vs MUGEN 4~1
http://photo.hondatech.com.au/header%20comparision%202/stock_Mugan.gif

Stock DC2-R 4~2~1 vs TODA 4~2~1
http://photo.hondatech.com.au/header%20comparision%202/stock_Toda.gif

[Speeder]

^ what about Mugen 4-2-1? Do you know how they perform?

[Tofu]

I would not buy Mugen header for the DC5, Mugen is more about bling. There are better performance orientated brands than Mugen.
for the same price, Maximworks is definately my choice.

[locote]

LOL at ppl that defend xforce... if ur happy with ur header then no need to defend it...
TODA looks the money like always :)
But does any have 1/4 mile times to compare headers???

[JasonGilholme]

dyno is a better comparison because theres too many variables for drag. Even if they're done one after the other.

[locote]

But dyno can also be manipulated..
but most GOOD headers only differ a couple of Horses any ways.
So ur pretty ok with most Jap or american brands

[typsy]

^ what about Mugen 4-2-1? Do you know how they perform?

I've got Mugen 4-2-1 with 2.5inch collector.

Pulled 120kwatw in a DC2R with Apexi intake and Apexi N1 exhaust and VAFCII.

[CivicOnBoost]

Adrian, what model of is the graphs on the previous page from? I am also assuming the toda header graph is running no cat since the toda doesn't come with cat.

There is too many variables which aren't listed and as someone else has mentioned dyno numbers can easily be fudged.

I have toda and am extremely happy with the product and the power increase. Have also seen very good results with maxim and buddyclub all with reference to DC5.

General rule of thumb is you get what you pay for especially when it comes to hondas. Every car and every dyno is different, simple as that. Toda great value for money, maxim if you got the cash go for it.

[TODA AU]

Adrian, what model of is the graphs on the previous page from? I am also assuming the toda header graph is running no cat since the toda doesn't come with cat.

There is too many variables which aren't listed and as someone else has mentioned dyno numbers can easily be fudged.

I have toda and am extremely happy with the product and the power increase. Have also seen very good results with maxim and buddyclub all with reference to DC5.

General rule of thumb is you get what you pay for especially when it comes to hondas. Every car and every dyno is different, simple as that. Toda great value for money, maxim if you got the cash go for it.

The current subject is DC2-R headers.
The test car refered to in the graphs is a DC2 R with std 4~2~1 header used as a datum.
Same car used with same exhaust & cat. The part changed was the header & no tuning changes were made.

Regarding fudging the dyno figures. (Good on ya)
That would make the whole test invalid.
As for actual figures... It doesn't matter, the charateristic is what is important.
Ie: How this compares to that.

Regarding DC5 Headers,
We supply the our header with a metal cat included for less than both the Maxim Works & B/C headers including catalysts.
So yes it is good value. Particularly when you could spend more money & get less performance.
Same can be said for the race headers.

[CivicOnBoost]

I was never having a go at you Adrian, i know that you know your stuff and i know that toda make good quality products. I'd recommend anyone to get their car tuned by you and any work done.

[TODA AU]

Ant - No offence intended... I re read & editted previous post.
Cheers

Adrian

[so_rnb]

LOL at ppl that defend xforce... if ur happy with ur header then no need to defend it...
TODA looks the money like always :)
But does any have 1/4 mile times to compare headers???

I've just recently joined this forum so I'm a noob. However I can be proud to say I was the first person in OZ to get the Maxim Works headers for my DC2 Vti-R (first after Chris and Steve Of course). I ran a 15.1 with the maxim works header and a 5Zigen PRo racer A spec cat back. A few years ago group of guys (who are probably on this forum, dunno your AKA's) used to go up to Mt Glorious (Brisbane) to drag race. One night I beat a stock WRX, a mild tuned Toyota Starlet, stock s15, stock DC2R and a basic tuned R33. I did them all multiple times in one night. Everyone was shocked, including myself. This was about 3 and a half years ago. Therefore I've pledged my life to this product.

JD

[macoman69]

Your about a year too late with this reply man the last post was around this time last year lol.

But very true that maximworks has very good headers.
Managed to get a 14.3 in my ITR with headers and exhaust during summer. Probably could have done better but never got the chance to go back out.
I have a new build now we shall see how that goes :)

[mku01]

maximworks is shit, xforce is way better