View Full Version : new SICK header from Lovefab.com
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=819375
i just hope this thing will be available for D series.
dyno run will be done on b20z engine very soon.
$750 us for 1 header , it better be dyno proven ;)
tofu R
14-04-2004, 12:42 PM
hehe very nice
i thought u were looking in bisimoto ?
CAT_SPEW
14-04-2004, 01:18 PM
Any idea what these go for? Suitable for small and big turbo applications or what?
http://www.lovefab.com/SST/dsstac1.jpg
hehe very nice
i thought u were looking in bisimoto ?
i need some friendly ps and ac header .
at least PS friendly.
pornstar
14-04-2004, 01:57 PM
meh, why bother buying a home made header all the way from the usa, when u can home make one here
meh, why bother buying a home made header all the way from the usa, when u can home make one here
make em here ??
hehehe
these headers are dyno proven
the boys from lovefab.com knows what they are doin.
pornstar
14-04-2004, 02:56 PM
lolz dyno proven yep i hear that alot. i got a dyno proven 500hp at the wheels if u think that dyno proven means anything.
and yeah they are a backyard job, but hey if u like to go on whatever is the in thing, go for it mate.
bennjamin
14-04-2004, 03:14 PM
REminds me of the Kamikazee header used b some of teh boys in teh US
....its pretty - but not the ideal setup for a NA car - the primariy design might be good for hi-power engines ( see drag cars) but for a normal car swith under say 300hp ( lol) this setup would be a waste.
Its different - but why hook this up for about $1500 AU , when u can get a Bisi proven header for quite abit less - and quite abit more power too ;)
Remember man - to be crazy fasst u dun need AC and PS :P
(BTW will (navaro) is working on a streeter AC/PS friendly bisimoto as we speak.....)
A'PEXi
14-04-2004, 03:24 PM
lol crazy mofo headers.com :D
REminds me of the Kamikazee header used b some of teh boys in teh US
....its pretty - but not the ideal setup for a NA car - the primariy design might be good for hi-power engines ( see drag cars) but for a normal car swith under say 300hp ( lol) this setup would be a waste.
Its different - but why hook this up for about $1500 AU , when u can get a Bisi proven header for quite abit less - and quite abit more power too ;)
Remember man - to be crazy fasst u dun need AC and PS :P
(BTW will (navaro) is working on a streeter AC/PS friendly bisimoto as we speak.....)
U makes me wanna get bisimoto header and strip my air con and power steering dude...
bennjamin
14-04-2004, 07:42 PM
http://www.hadamotorsport.com/FireballedHeader1.JPG
....u know want to ;)
Tiem to beat Type Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr eh ? :)
time to beat iTR with mods ...with my stock internal ZC
CAT_SPEW
15-04-2004, 10:13 AM
big turbo's dude
How big of a turbo are we talking here? I don't know much about turbo setups etc. But my older step-brother does, and he said he is gonna help me out when I get the cash for it. The main problem that I think I will have is finding/making a manifold for it.
Are these expensive/hard to get custom made, and does anyone know of a shop is Australia tha will sell ready-made ones??
Matt.
costs like $900 or so to have one made up that will do the job, personally i dont think its worth having one brought in from the US. Aussies can weld just as well as the yanks :)
Javed
15-04-2004, 10:37 PM
costs like $900 or so to have one made up that will do the job, personally i dont think its worth having one brought in from the US. Aussies can weld just as well as the yanks :)
Word!
94vtirozguy
16-04-2004, 05:13 PM
costs like $900 or so to have one made up that will do the job, personally i dont think its worth having one brought in from the US. Aussies can weld just as well as the yanks :)
Word!
true aussies can weld as good as anyone, but you are missing the point.
How much do these so called aussie welders spend on R&D time to actually get the header to flow as well as it can for each model of car is the real question. I have seen people who have spent an arm and a leg on custom made headers only to lose power, but hey as you said the welds were great.... then when they want to get gains they double their costs because they then have to go out and buy another header.....
so whats cheaper in the long run ???
what's cheaper is to go to someone who actually knows what they are doing (and by that, have a look at the examples of their work, and the type of cars going in and out of their workshop). If they are just an exhaust shop, and dont do custom work, then yeh you'll prolly get something that wont be very good.
However, go to a place that specialises in performance work, and has built numerous high power cars, and suddenly you have as much expertise as these guys in the US. The guy who builds the Lovefab manifolds is not a pro welder, he's learned his craft in the time i have been a member on Honda-Tech. He is now very good, and builds quality manifolds, but he isnt as experienced as a good workshop in this country would be.
Hence pornstar's backyard job manifold comment, Tinker makes these at home and borrowed the design off others, as most manifold manufacturers do.
On the other hand, look at the Drag manifolds, they flow like shit in comparison and people have run 10 second 1/4 mile times using them, so how important is it to have the latest "in" manifold?
Javed
16-04-2004, 09:27 PM
As an example a guy working at the performance place up here owns the shop and has been in the business a long time. HE is exporting his exhaust systems to the US and makign ak illimg from it. Why? Cos his craftsmanship is unbelievably good and the yanks havent seen anything like this before? A breakthrough? Maybe, but somebody with common sense and some devotion to their work is all I gather from all this. Pointing the finger and generally assuming that Aussies wont put as much "R&D" time into their work is pure bullshit. Apples for apples mate, when put to it the Aussies can do as good, if not better job than anybody out there. Keep the local industry running I say! :)
CAT_SPEW
16-04-2004, 10:09 PM
I had a talk to my older brother, he knows a friend that will be able to make one up for me so that's okai.
But I have heard people talking about loosing their aircon to get soemthing like this installed? Is this easily avoidable?
if you go with something simpler than the one shown then yeh, its easy to build a good manifold that allows the air con to stay :)
CAT_SPEW
17-04-2004, 11:00 AM
Awesome, I had an idea that's how it worked ;)
Can't wait to get some more money :P
94vtirozguy
18-04-2004, 04:22 PM
As an example a guy working at the performance place up here owns the shop and has been in the business a long time. HE is exporting his exhaust systems to the US and makign ak illimg from it. Why? Cos his craftsmanship is unbelievably good and the yanks havent seen anything like this before? A breakthrough? Maybe, but somebody with common sense and some devotion to their work is all I gather from all this. Pointing the finger and generally assuming that Aussies wont put as much "R&D" time into their work is pure bullshit. Apples for apples mate, when put to it the Aussies can do as good, if not better job than anybody out there. Keep the local industry running I say! :)
i was comparing apples to apples, you are talking about one individual/company. If this aussie company/individual is so good at their work, how come most people over here have not heard of him / or company ??? I am one to support local industry, but when talking to many people from not only australia but over the world on a daily basis i have never heard of anything australian mentioned especially when talking about headers/exhausts that have bettered or even matched what has been developed overseas, i have in regard to other car parts though.
ginganggooly
19-04-2004, 12:34 PM
As an example a guy working at the performance place up here owns the shop and has been in the business a long time. HE is exporting his exhaust systems to the US and makign ak illimg from it. Why? Cos his craftsmanship is unbelievably good and the yanks havent seen anything like this before? A breakthrough? Maybe, but somebody with common sense and some devotion to their work is all I gather from all this. Pointing the finger and generally assuming that Aussies wont put as much "R&D" time into their work is pure bullshit. Apples for apples mate, when put to it the Aussies can do as good, if not better job than anybody out there. Keep the local industry running I say! :)
i was comparing apples to apples, you are talking about one individual/company. If this aussie company/individual is so good at their work, how come most people over here have not heard of him / or company ??? I am one to support local industry, but when talking to many people from not only australia but over the world on a daily basis i have never heard of anything australian mentioned especially when talking about headers/exhausts that have bettered or even matched what has been developed overseas, i have in regard to other car parts though.
imo, the problem is that most people are obsessing over having JDM parts. generally these people view anything that is designed or assembled in australia as being rat shit.
as far as a mention for australian parts overseas is concerned, how about motec, autronic, dms, whiteline and heaps of businesses... these companies produce parts that are sold overseas, and generally held in high regard.
vti-2
19-04-2004, 01:23 PM
imo, the problem is that most people are obsessing over having JDM parts. generally these people view anything that is designed or assembled in australia as being rat shit.
as far as a mention for australian parts overseas is concerned, how about motec, autronic, dms, whiteline and heaps of businesses... these companies produce parts that are sold overseas, and generally held in high regard.
JDM y0!!!
The obsession with JDM has sorta died down but there is still a craze out there for JDM. Just look at the U.S. Perfect example.
Fair points you made though.
94vtirozguy
19-04-2004, 09:57 PM
As an example a guy working at the performance place up here owns the shop and has been in the business a long time. HE is exporting his exhaust systems to the US and makign ak illimg from it. Why? Cos his craftsmanship is unbelievably good and the yanks havent seen anything like this before? A breakthrough? Maybe, but somebody with common sense and some devotion to their work is all I gather from all this. Pointing the finger and generally assuming that Aussies wont put as much "R&D" time into their work is pure bullshit. Apples for apples mate, when put to it the Aussies can do as good, if not better job than anybody out there. Keep the local industry running I say! :)
i was comparing apples to apples, you are talking about one individual/company. If this aussie company/individual is so good at their work, how come most people over here have not heard of him / or company ??? I am one to support local industry, but when talking to many people from not only australia but over the world on a daily basis i have never heard of anything australian mentioned especially when talking about headers/exhausts that have bettered or even matched what has been developed overseas, i have in regard to other car parts though.
imo, the problem is that most people are obsessing over having JDM parts. generally these people view anything that is designed or assembled in australia as being rat shit.
as far as a mention for australian parts overseas is concerned, how about motec, autronic, dms, whiteline and heaps of businesses... these companies produce parts that are sold overseas, and generally held in high regard.
you did not read my entire post did you. I was referring to exhaust / headers, and stated near the end was the fact that their other companies / products in australia that are recognised overseas.
Yes there is too much emphasis on what comes from japan must be the best.
ginganggooly
19-04-2004, 10:08 PM
As an example a guy working at the performance place up here owns the shop and has been in the business a long time. HE is exporting his exhaust systems to the US and makign ak illimg from it. Why? Cos his craftsmanship is unbelievably good and the yanks havent seen anything like this before? A breakthrough? Maybe, but somebody with common sense and some devotion to their work is all I gather from all this. Pointing the finger and generally assuming that Aussies wont put as much "R&D" time into their work is pure bullshit. Apples for apples mate, when put to it the Aussies can do as good, if not better job than anybody out there. Keep the local industry running I say! :)
i was comparing apples to apples, you are talking about one individual/company. If this aussie company/individual is so good at their work, how come most people over here have not heard of him / or company ??? I am one to support local industry, but when talking to many people from not only australia but over the world on a daily basis i have never heard of anything australian mentioned especially when talking about headers/exhausts that have bettered or even matched what has been developed overseas, i have in regard to other car parts though.
imo, the problem is that most people are obsessing over having JDM parts. generally these people view anything that is designed or assembled in australia as being rat shit.
as far as a mention for australian parts overseas is concerned, how about motec, autronic, dms, whiteline and heaps of businesses... these companies produce parts that are sold overseas, and generally held in high regard.
you did not read my entire post did you. I was referring to exhaust / headers, and stated near the end was the fact that their other companies / products in australia that are recognised overseas.
Yes there is too much emphasis on what comes from japan must be the best.
but when talking to many people from not only australia but over the world on a daily basis i have never heard of anything australian mentioned
i guess that line of yours threw me. :)
94vtirozguy
19-04-2004, 10:18 PM
helps when you read the whole sentence :) not half of it....
ginganggooly
19-04-2004, 10:52 PM
helps when you read the whole sentence :) not half of it....
punctuation is your friend. embrace it and you'll find yourself understood alot beterrer. ;)
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