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DLO01
10-10-2006, 10:00 PM
I know this has been asked a lot of times "do I have a LSD la de da...."

I need some honest clarification. If you don't know or have not experienced, please do not post.

I am a little confused about my DC2R (Integra Type R). As you know they all came with a LSD from factory.

I am sure we have all driven a car with an open diff and you can feel that inside tyre lighting up if you drop the clutch.

When I drive my car it always feels as though both fronts are driving.

But from this forum and others, people say "to test if you have a LSD", jack up the front of you car, spin one wheel and the other should do the same. Well in my case it does not do this. The other wheel just stays still.

Now is everyone talking BS or don't I have a LSD.

Please discuss and clarify. Even better if people with DC2R's can jack up their cars, tell me what your car does when you spin one wheel.

Thanks in advance. :thumbsup:

barefootbonzai
10-10-2006, 10:05 PM
Not sure about that one. You might have to be in Gear. Cause i know i have LSD and when i do the spinning test the other does not spin either, but this is in neutral. So don't stress too much.

You can check if you can be bothered taking out your driveshaft and looking through the box.

fatboyz39
10-10-2006, 10:05 PM
Take both driveshafts out and see.

aimre
10-10-2006, 10:22 PM
or..... put your car on stand and put in gear and start it. If u can stop one wheel with your foot, it aint got LSD. Iknow my civic dont got it.

arron
10-10-2006, 10:44 PM
But from this forum and others, people say "to test if you have a LSD", jack up the front of you car, spin one wheel and the other should do the same. Well in my case it does not do this. The other wheel just stays still.



Put it in gear. When you spin one of the front wheels, the other wheel will spin the opposite way.

destrukshn
10-10-2006, 10:46 PM
okay just to clarify that comment kinda..
i've got a d series motor and gearbox in my civic
when i jacked up the car
i spin 1 wheel, and the other spins the opposite direction.
and i really don't think i have a LSD in my d series motor, becuase it's an auto. lol.

sydteg21
10-10-2006, 10:56 PM
i reskon you did not put it in gear la ,mate

ECU-MAN
10-10-2006, 11:41 PM
best way to check is to take out the drive shaft and have a look

you gearbox will also have LSD stamped on it with black writing

taizon
11-10-2006, 12:12 AM
i did the same with dc2r.. jacked it up and spun the wheels. and the other wheel didnt spin..

then i read further on this forum. and it said that i needed to put it in gear.. so i jacked it up again. put it in gear.. and the other wheel spun the opposite direction..

SOo my guess.. try again and put it in gear.



Although.. i also did this in my mums auto corolla... and the other wheel spun the opposite direction.. SOo.. does that mean the new corollas hav LSD too???...

ECU-MAN
11-10-2006, 12:27 AM
no Corollas dont have LSD

its normal for type R to do that.

you still have an LSD

FWD LSD design is different to RWD LSD

zco
11-10-2006, 01:17 AM
my gbox is standard from ek4. no LSD, and the wheel spins opposite direction. in neutral too.

the gearbox is stamped in BLACK letters LSD (the black letters are very hard to remove. usually on the top of your gbox). the serial number should start with S80-

DLO01
11-10-2006, 07:55 AM
Ok, big thanks to everyone.

Conclusion is the best way is to take the driveshafts out. And the people who say "spin one wheel one way and the other should spin the same direction" in regard to Honda FWD LSD's as simply talking BS.

Thanks to everyone in this thread. :thumbsup:

barefootbonzai
11-10-2006, 08:18 AM
That's surely right. Just e-mechanics who heard if from a mates, cousins, mum's ucle's friend.

Zilli
11-10-2006, 10:10 AM
hey man,

i did this a few weeks back, and when it was in nuetral nothing happened and i was a little disturbed, but if you think about it, the diff can operate unless the car is in gear, hence when i put it in gear it did work.

try it man

ProECU
11-10-2006, 10:14 AM
rev to 7k, drop the clutch and look for two black tyre marks, :)

not sure if this applies to FWD LSD, but its a fun test !

SKREMN
11-10-2006, 11:01 AM
alot of the time at such high revs both wheel will spin
my stock LS box did

bennjamin
11-10-2006, 11:15 AM
yup in a straight line a open diff will often give equal traction to both wheels.
But its in the cornering is where the LSD counts ;)

The only way to 100% confirm a gearboxes differential type is by taking out the driveshafts and having a peek down the centre.
Otherwise judge by which vehicle it came from ( any "type R" car from honda) or the markings on the casing.

j3z3z
11-10-2006, 12:21 PM
go for a drive when its wet. find a safe corner put it in second or first whilst driving and plant it through the corner... it should feel for a split second like your going to torque steer off the road, but keep into it (not on off or torque steer will stay) and after that split second you will feel the car drive through the corner albiet probably with wheelspin in the wet... but pretty much and lsd helps elimanate wheelspin conering (in dry) and torque steer (in wet)

Limbo
11-10-2006, 05:18 PM
That's just stupid. If you push the car that hard in the wet your liable to loose control, LSD or no LSD. In a FWD loosing control in wet is almost sucidial your not gonna come out of the spin well.

If you really that interested pull out the shafts or look on the box for the markings.

j3z3z
11-10-2006, 06:13 PM
sorry limbo but it works... with lsd! quick hit of torque steer and then drive. works wonders in my ef8 compared to my mates non lsd ed9

spetz
13-10-2006, 02:49 AM
With my LSD if it's in gear I can't manually turn the wheel and in neutral they both spin the same way