Electric Steering?

[Sherweeeny]

Does anyone else find that the Electric Steering in the Civic's absolutely dull the driving experience?

another large issue i have come across is that sometimes for a split second, the steering wheel in odd moments such as bumps, high speeds or uneven surfaces will actually be facing in a tad different way to where the wheels are actually facing which is bloody dangerous.

now im no car geek, but can the electric element in the steering be pissed off? or are we stuck with it? it just shits me to tears, and i end up driving another car around which burns more fuel and therefore decreases my grog money for the weekend.

[Havocwreaker]

As far as I know the FD series uses the standard rack and pinion set up for steering, which is a mechanical linkage. It is power assisted, but it is not disconnected from the front wheels.
If your steering wheel is indeed turning independent of your front wheels, I'd recommend checking out the warranty claim form.

[kriZy]

what is electric steering? is that like daytona how it automatically steers for you?

[iLlusion10]

electric steering..drive by wire, in other words the steering wheel isn't physically connected to the front wheels to steer, rather it's all done electronically. Much like a plane.

[edmbranch]

the fd2's power assisted electronically whereas the fd1's using hydraulics/rack&pinion..

i drive both cars.. the fd1's steering has better feel than the fd2 sports..
fd2's steering's too light imo

[triode12]

the fd2's power assisted electronically whereas the fd1's using hydraulics/rack&pinion..

i drive both cars.. the fd1's steering has better feel than the fd2 sports..
fd2's steering's too light imo

Really? I thought the FD1s also had electronic power steering.

[Kangaaz]

Really? I thought the FD1s also had electronic power steering.

Look under your bonnet, Power steering fluid = hydraulics

[denot]

^^^ strangely Honda still ask me to change the Power Steering fluid for my FD2 in the next service :confused:

[edmbranch]

lol.. not very sure guys.. it said so on the specs.. as long as my car turns when i turn the steering wheel i'm happy.. :cool:

http://www.honda.net.my/models/civic_specifications_20s.cfm fd2 rack and pinion! booyah

http://www.honda.net.my/models/civic_specifications_18s.cfm fd1

[denot]

^^^ nice findings! and the Type R using Hydraulic as well!!! booo!!!! why the Sports have to use Electric???

[edmbranch]

cause old ppl buy the sports and they think the steering's too heavy.. as in grannies and grandpas..

but we mod them fds up to look younger :P

[denot]

^^^ dang we are old! :(

but actually 1st time I test drove the FD, I was impressed by how light the steering is compare to my 7th Gen...

[gerard]

hmmmm, the steering effort on my FD2 is actually heavier than my Audi and suzuki. go figure

[edmbranch]

^^^ dang we are old! :(

but actually 1st time I test drove the FD, I was impressed by how light the steering is compare to my 7th Gen...


same here.. fd2's steering feels like driving a toy car.. 7th gen's steering needs a lil effort..

[triode12]

I did a test drive in both a VTi-L and Sport before buying my FD2. After I commented on the responsiveness of the steering on the VTi-L test drive, the salesman said it was due to the electric steering. He could have been blowing smoke like most salesmen like most salesmen are wont to do.

Could all the AUD civics have electric steering....?

[Mr_will]

another large issue i have come across is that sometimes for a split second, the steering wheel in odd moments such as bumps, high speeds or uneven surfaces will actually be facing in a tad different way to where the wheels are actually facing which is bloody dangerous.




so youre saying that for the most part, your steering wheel controls the direction in which your front wheels point, but under particular circumstances it does not?

does this seem logical to you?

[Sherweeeny]

so youre saying that for the most part, your steering wheel controls the direction in which your front wheels point, but under particular circumstances it does not?

does this seem logical to you?

if it seemed logical to me, then why in the world would i be posting it up here? its happened once where i thought oh shit, something screwed up (by me) except it happened once more in a more controlled and slower environment and i thought, oh shit, its the steering wtf.

i just wanted to see if it happens to others... the first time i freaked out and totally countersteered as it started turning me towards a telegraph pole. i just wasnt expecting it to turn! however it wasnt like an ideal condition as in a straight road, it was crappy and a bend, and i was going a little fast, but nothing dangerous.. so i thought lol. never again will my civic be pushed. its obviously proven it cant be trusted. it could even be the fact that the steering is so dull that it doesnt tell you what its doing on the road, it just isnt responsive and it communicates really poorly, but i can still tell that sometimes it (although very slightly) turns off centre even if the bloody wheel is straight.

[edmbranch]

if it seemed logical to me, then why in the world would i be posting it up here? its happened once where i thought oh shit, something screwed up (by me) except it happened once more in a more controlled and slower environment and i thought, oh shit, its the steering wtf.

i just wanted to see if it happens to others... the first time i freaked out and totally countersteered as it started turning me towards a telegraph pole. i just wasnt expecting it to turn! however it wasnt like an ideal condition as in a straight road, it was crappy and a bend, and i was going a little fast, but nothing dangerous.. so i thought lol. never again will my civic be pushed. its obviously proven it cant be trusted. it could even be the fact that the steering is so dull that it doesnt tell you what its doing on the road, it just isnt responsive and it communicates really poorly, but i can still tell that sometimes it (although very slightly) turns off centre even if the bloody wheel is straight.

haha lol.. that happens when our cars are FF..
from my past experience, it's happened to me a lot of times, but it's due to high speed cornering on bumpy roads and wet conditions..

also from my experience when my front wheels hit the bump and stepped on the brakes, while entering a corner at a high speed.. it'll automatically go into ABS mode and the calipers would grip the discs.. hard.. and the car would go into understeer.. (cause i'm no pro-driver, dunno nth bout drivin hard) that's when the steering would go a lil berserk

could the steering wheel be off center due to wheel alignments?

[markCivicVti]

electric steering..drive by wire, in other words the steering wheel isn't physically connected to the front wheels to steer, rather it's all done electronically. Much like a plane.

LOL.... you've got to be kidding! :zip:

[FDBenni]

Only the FD2 has drive by wire not FD1? Or does all AUDM civic have drive by wire ..

[markCivicVti]

Only the FD2 has drive by wire not FD1? Or does all AUDM civic have drive by wire ..

LOL... another one!

1.) DBW has nothing to do with steering
2.) The FD1 does have DBW

[FDBenni]

LOL... another one!

1.) DBW has nothing to do with steering
2.) The FD1 does have DBW

LOL yeh my bad .. was reading too much of this thread :o ahh embarrassing times.
DBW controls throttle not steering.