Tried and tested with/without - seems to make no difference to issue, just wondered getting mixed responses as to general usage of teh vaseline meh
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Tried and tested with/without - seems to make no difference to issue, just wondered getting mixed responses as to general usage of teh vaseline meh
I have heard that some manual cars have a switch that prevents the car being started if the clutch is not depressed, similar to automatic cars not starting in gear.
Perhaps it is related? I have no knowledge of these things, just a quick search about the problem revealed this switch exists. Perhaps an auto electrician could help?
Hey Guys, Thanks for the responses - ill certainly do more digging on the switch matter, but iv always been able to lean into the car and start it in nuetral before to warm up the car or whatever in the morning so i dont believe so.
Additionally though, its not even that the car wont start its that the whole car seems to turn off, like it would if there was no battery connected at all - doing my head in this one is..
Cheers,
Adam
Oh, and yeh i think an auto elec would be able to work it out, just moving interstate theres nobody here i know/trust yet so im a bit tentative.
If some melbournians could chip in some suggestions of some trusted mechanics/auto sparkys that would be great too! Im 20 minutes out west near point cook/werribee sorta direction..
Ta,
precautionary ! its the common sense issue , that is some people park in gear while some dont. Ask a member on this forum what happened when he failed to test if in gear and started my car without his foot on my clutch ( SMASH x 2 cars)
You should always start with the clutch engaged regardless nothing to do with wear lol. :D
I think maybe the other point is that maybe some cabling runs behind the pedal (alarm maybe) and is getting crushed by the force of the clutch,
Working in the electrical industry, we used to cover copper bars in vaseline before bolting together, this was for 1000amp + connections, so i dont think the vaseline is at fault here, maybe the battery terminal clamp is cracked??
Lie on the floor and look up at where the clutch pedal is hinged, (use a torch)
Look for a switch simlar to what you should see on the brake pedal, it may be faulty too
Shame your not still in Sydney, I would have been fixing this I am sure haha
Has anyone experienced the same issue??
Thanks gwailo, I'll check in the AM - I might see if I can even go so far as to pull a bit of the carpet back.. I think the carpets still loose from when the chap I bought it from was doing his sound system cable running. I'll post asap.
Thanks everyone,
Goodnight OzHonda.
So any luck??
My money is on a switch (may even be aftermarket) loose battery terminals, or you being a NOOB!!!!! hahahaha (your mum hahahaha)
Please note, the above will really only be understood by the OP :)
Come back to Sydney for a weekend, we can sort it then, you should be doing your oil too, would be overdue by now I think??
You mentioned you had a decent Viper alarm system? Sounds like there's a clutch switch/neutral safety switch that's shorting out and enabling the immobiliser. A lot of the upper Viper models use the signal from the clutch switch as a safety mechanism. You don't happen to have a remote start model do you? It's normally used for the remote start feature.
Take a look under the dash, behind the clutch pedal should be a switch with a 2 pin connector. One of the pins will read 12v when the ignition is turned to 'START'. The other will only read 12v when the clutch is depressed and the key is turned to 'START'. This is why you have power when the key is turned to 'ACC' and 'ON' but cuts out when you flick it to 'START' while the clutch is in.
The Viper alarm will probably be wired into one of these signal wires. I'd say it's safe to assume that the 'START' signal wire from the switch is exposed and touching the body of the car. Creating a short. It's probably where the alarm wiring is wired in. i.e. it has been covered up really dodgy.
Either that or it uses a relay for a similar effect and the relay has died. Which will cause the same problem.
;)
Any news on this yet? 02GZM's got the best idea i think, to me it sounds like a short, especially if everything goes off.
Sorry i took so long to get back on ozhonda, working 12-14 hour days doesnt leave much time to tinker.. Ive just been distorting and twisting myself with a torch in hand getting under the dash to try to work this out, I ended up cutting the carpet to get under it to see what was there because I couldnt see any connectors above or around the immediate area of the clutch.. There was some wiring under the carpet resting on hideously dirty but very metal bodywork - that wiring looked pretty shoddy, Ive electrical taped that back up hoping beyond hope maybe a short was all it was? I reseated the connectors on the actual viper box itself and managed to tidy it up so you cant even see where I cut ;)
Ive been starting the car the last half hour or so and I cant get it to not start again.. Hopefully it starts in the morning hahaha
Thankyou 02gzm really appreciate your advice mate, I'll try to get on tomorrow night and let you know how I went lol
If it rains tomorrow as it has been every arvo at the station this week and it wont start I may just kill myself :D
After this, it goes to the auto elec to tear it apart and charge me through the asshole for it.
Goodnight OzHonda.